JD 4110--4x4, 60", Plow, ROPS--$12,500?

[My Hoe]

Hi all,

I owe some Kubota buddies BIG TIME, for a TON of help they're currently giving me. By that I mean, I don't have time, right now, to answer their 8, speedy, TOTALLY INSIGHTFUL, THOUGHTFUL, HELPFUL responses to my MEGA-post, and I don't want them to "catch" me over here, in Green Country, asking more questions, when I haven't even answered them yet, because I've been up 30 hours and have to sleep, then travel.

LOL--I do realize that there is "cross-pollination" among the forums, and I WILL be "busted," but I'm putting this mea culpa up front, to lessen their wrath--just kidding--my Kubota buddies are FANTASTIC--I just feel guilty not having the time to answer them now, yet I need JD info FAST, as I might try to make a "package deal" on a used Kubota and the used JD 4110 you see linked below.

My Problem: I don't want my g.f. mowing on slopes around the red building pictured in the Kubota Novella I started below. And you've got to scroll waaaaaay, waaaay down, to my second post, to see the slopes leading up to the red building I'm talking about.

L5740--Need Opinions on Value--Have Pics!
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kubota-buying-pricing/235150-l5740-need-opinions-value-have.html


But First, a Confession: I have a mental disorder known as Obsessive Compulsive Disorder or, OCD, for Short.

It makes me feel compelled to knock three times, on REAL wood, whenever I mention a physical health condition I have. For example, recently, I had spinal surgery, which caused a painful heel condition (plantar fasciitis), and it痴 a hard one to "heal" (pun intended). Worse yet, my back surgeon tells me I must adhere to a very low weight lift limit, for life, or risk re-injury, and all that that may entail. I like him, but I sure hope he's wrong about that weight limit thing.

So far, no big deal with the OCD thing, right? Well, the weirder thing is, I feel compelled to ask OTHERS to ALSO knock on REAL wood for me, three times, should I have to mention an injury or other physical condition I have. I guess you could say it's like a superstition, or a "good luck thing," or whatever.

OCD can be a nasty mental disorder to resolve, and I was told it can take YEARS to cure. I guess I知 斗ucky, relatively speaking, as some people have it where it requires them to be 渡eat freaks, or to do certain, often very complex, routines. There was a show on this, on TLC, and a woman felt compelled to EAT HER WHOLE COUCH, which she did*mong other pieces of furniture, if I知 not mistaken (I didn稚 actually watch the show.)

As I say, I consider myself lucky, as knocking on REAL wood three times, when a health condition is mentioned, is not such a big deal. The problem is when I attempt to impose it upon others, like asking you guys and gals to ALSO knock on wood for me, if I mention a health condition I am trying to find the right equipment to compensate for.

Out of respect for you all, I will try to keep that to a minimum, but that is where it gets tough for me.

So, if I ask you to do it, you certainly don稚 have to, and I値l never know if you did or not. But I feel compelled, at times, to ask folks to do this, and I feel you all are owed, at a minimum, an explanation for what is certainly some unusual, if not bizarre, behavior.

As I say, I am seeking treatment, but my first shrink FELL ASLEEP SIX TIMES IN THE FIRST 20 MINUTES OF OUR FOURTH 鉄ESSION, and his medicine made me sick, so I no longer see him, and am currently seeking other professionals. Enough about that, and back to tractors, but thank you for letting me explain this (possibly foreign) phenomenon to you.


My work requires me to be away for extended periods, and the P.O. kept his property like a Hallmark card, as you can see. So we'd like to at least TRY to maintain the VERY high standard he set, and is probably expecting, as are my new neighbors. Consequently, my g.f. will have to mow, sometimes. It's almost two acres now, and the possibility of one or two additional acres MAY exist in the future, though they would largely be "hayed" by a neighbor, rather than mowed by the JD. They also involve a steep gulch, with perhaps a 30 degree+ incline. We also HOPE to have large, organic gardens, as we have in the past (health permitting), so please, again, knock on REAL wood for me, three times--I really do thank you all for that, btw.

Here is the machine in question:

JD 4110
JOHN DEERE 4110 Less than 40 HP For Sale At TractorHouse.com

Now, I know (Green) BEANS about JD's, other than Green is the most expensive color, which seems appropriate, as GREEN is the "color of money," to coin a phrase (puns intended).

What I'd like to know is:

1. Is this one of those SUPER-QUIET, three-cylinder diesels I've heard and observed doing "track clean up" at garden tractor pulls? Because that thing was SO QUIET, I could use it as a "white noise" machine, to help me fall asleep! LOL IOW, I like QUIET, and LOW VIBRATION, AND A SOFT, SUSPENSION SEAT, if possible.


2. Unless my eyes deceive me, the plow a power angle job, right?


3. Does this machine POWER STEERING?

4. I have a back injury-is there a "suspension seat" more effecrtive than the two, stiff springs I've seen on lesser, air-cooled, two-cylinder, gas JD's?


5. Could someone please provide links to REAL SPECS on this machine?


6. Could someone provide links to INDUSTRY REVIEWS OF THIS MACHINE, or better yet, something less pricey, but with hydrostatic drive and a foldable ROPS?


7. Is there a SMALLER JD WITH A FOLDABLE ROPS, and hydro, power steering, and possibly, a seat with more than just two, stiff springs under it?


8. Does anyone have any PERSONAL EXPERIENCE with this model, or it's hopefully smaller, more affordable "little brother?", i.e., the 3-series?[/B]


9. Can this machine, or it's (possibly mythical?) diesel-powered "little brother") be had WITHOUT the 4x4, so as to save $ in a used purchase?

The P.O. of this property had a 2 y.o. JD with a 48" deck, hydro, 2x4 (I believe) and it was ONE MODEL below the "3-series," which I understand is where JD's begin to really represent the true quality JD's are known for. (And no offense to any sub-3-series machines. I only know what I've heard, and that is that the sub-3-series machines have a history of "pattern failures" involving short-lifespan deck idlers.

Further, an owner of the exact, sub-3-series machine the P.O. of our new (to us) house actually advised me NOT to buy it, as he had replaced deck idlers prematurely and posted pics of a SHATTERED DECK ARBOR (cast aluminum?), saying he'd never hit anything even as big as a golf ball, IIRC.

10. Re: NOISE:

My neighbor mowed my lawn (at our old house) with a brand new, JD three series, (2 x 4) due to my injured back, this summer, and it was LOUDER than I expected, for a JD (And NO OFFENSE to 3 series owners, either!) I was just a little shocked at how loud it was, from INSIDE my house. It seemed louder than my little, 1984 Ariens, 11 hp., single cylinder, air-cooled B&S, and yet I believe my neighbor's 3 series is A TWIN CYLINDER, albeit air-cooled, and I generally find TWINS to be quieter and smoother than single cylinders.

Then again, I'm never INSIDE my house when I'm mowing, as the g.f. refuses to be taught how to drive a standard tranny--even on a belt drive lawn tractor--so I can't SWEAR his JD is louder than my old Ariens. Nevertheless, I was all set to give the P.O. of the property $1,400. for his "one model below the 3 series machine," (less than two years old and like 40 hours on it).


11. With 4x4, I would NOT need chains to plow flat driveways, right?


12. How about plowing the approaches to the red building, in the pics I posted in the LOOOOONNNNGGG Kubota thread? Would I need chains to plow those?


13. Any known "pattern failures" on these 4110's that I should be aware of in the 4110's?


14. Can a QUIET, WATER-COOLED engine, gas or diesel, be had in a used 3 series? If so, I'd LOVE a link to such a machine's specs, pics, etc....


15. Is there anything else, good, bad or ugly, that I should know about this 4110, or about JD's 3 series?


16. How about the PRICE? $12,500. seems waaay HIGH to me, for something I'll use as a lawn mower, especially since I may need to get a mower deck for the Kubota, as the Grand L has a suspension seat, so I'll do most of the mowing with that.


17. Does the JD 4110 have a "drive over" mowing deck? Some Kubota's do, which is why I ask. Much easier than dragging the deck in from one side, which I cannot count on doing. (Please knock on REAL wood three times, for me--thanks!)


18. IF we are able to obtain an additional acre or two, to access it, we have to climb a steep (30+ degree grade). So the 4x4 would be an asset--is this machine sure-footed enough for that? Those huge, heavy-lugged turfs, and 4x4, make me think this thing could almost go off-roading, like a quad. Is that about right?

I'm imagining one would have to BACK UP such a steep slope (I'm not talking about mowing such a slope, of course, but perhaps pulling a small, LIGHT wagon, from the front--for a "picnic" or whatever. I'm guessing the only way to descend such a slope would be nose first, just like I backed up--am I right? Or just over-tired--been up 30-40 hours, and I think it's starting to show....

19. Also, we have a 740lb. log splitter which will need moving around on the flats, so perhaps this machine makes more economic sense that I first thought, as the hoe will be on my Kubota full time, so I have nothing to move the splitter with, as my pickup is too big to go where the splitter is needed.

20. Can anyone who's owned/operated this particular model of JD testify, for or against, the RIDE QUALITY? I'm getting a larger Kubota, in part because I want the SOFTEST RIDE POSSIBLE. Thanks.

21. How small a JD is available, in a hydro, with a FOLDABLE ROPS?
Any links to such a "unicorn" would me MUCH appreciated--reviews, specs, forum-questions specific to this question, etc....


22. How STABLE are these 4110's, on side slopes?
I only ask because I had to use a fair bit of "body English" (pre-back injury), i.e., sit on the edge of the seat, hand on fender, etc..., to keep our low, VERY stable, 1984 Ariens 11hp., 42" lawn tractor right side up, on our lawn. I don't plan on doing those gymnastics anytime soon. Further, my g.f. does not want to learn how to operate a manual shift (believe me, this has been FIRMLY established, periodically, over our 28 years together) so hydro is a MUST for her.

Funnily enough, my little, 11hp., belt drive (i.e., non-hydro) Arien's lawn tractor was MORE stable than a 1971-ish, 14hp. Wheel Horse GT (actually, a fairly collectible piece, these days, for Wheel Horsers) that I worked on (for FREE, as usual, for a friend) and THAT Wheel Horse GT14, with big 25" tires on the back, would have gone over, had the deck not hit the ground, one day. I was lulled into a FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY by it's SHEER MASS and power, and huge (25"?) rear tires, compared to my little Ariens.

What I learned was, my little 11hp Ariens, with it's 8" (12"?) rear wheels had a LOWER CENTER OF GRAVITY, and required LESS "body English" to keep right side up on a cross slope.

I belabor this because those are some TALL-looking tires on that JD4110! What size ARE they? So I ask again--are there any opinions out there on this machine's side-slope stability? I realize the 60" deck will allow for some miscalculation, and a "ground strike" with the deck would probably prevent a rollover (thinking primarily of the g.f. here) but as my dear, departed Grandfather would have said:

"That's no way to run a railroad."

So, are these 4110's SO DENSE and HEAVY, like the Kubota BX-type machines (which weigh, I believe, 1,200lb. without the FEL and hoe? But I could be wrong about that) that they ARE stable, on side slopes?

I guess what I'm asking is--what is the "do not exceed" angle on these machines--10-15 degrees, as I've been reading is a common "comfort zone" for SCUT and CUT Kubota TLB owners?


23. In case no one offers a link to specs on this 4110, and I cannot find any (haven't had time to look yet, honestly) what is the WEIGHT of this machine, without deck/plow, etc...?


24. Now, no offense to Kubota BX25 (TLB) owners, but those machines are not only known to have a rather low ground clearance (don't shoot me, but I think it's only 6"?) so that they apparently can get "high centered" in the woods. Being TLB's, of course, they can presumably escape, but they are not recommended for woods duty.

HOWEVER, when they ARE used "off road," shall we say, an "Achilles Heel" has been discovered: they have an inexpensive-to-buy, but VERY labor-inten$ive-to-replace, COOLING FAN, for the rear-mounted hydro unit. (The larger B-series uses an oil cooler, and dispenses with the fan.)

I believe I read that some JD's ALSO have a similar problem--low ground clearance with a cooling fan. Is that true?

Kubota owners can solve this problem, in advance, as many do, with a skid-plate kit (some even make their own). I won't be going in the woods with this machine, but I WILL be splitting wood with it (health permitting, so, I hope, for the last time, could yall knock 3 times for me, on REAL wood?

MY 25nd question--Reader's Digest Version:
Does this 4110 have a ANY, vulnerable "Achilles Heel," like a plastic cooling fan that costs a lot to replace? Because I can see just running over a pile of bark from the 36" x 18" rounds I HOPE to be splitting could cause a large "splinter" to poke up into a vulnerable underbelly fan, filter, or whatever.

Does it have a vulnerable underbelly?

Is there a skid-plate kit available, if it does?

Does it have any other such weak spots?

26. What else should I check out, on the "test drive," of this 4110?

Note: there was no "sanity test" or "mental health test" when I joined TBN, so that's how I got IN here--they probably have one now, but I successfully "slipped under the wire." :laughing: Hopefully I'll be allowed to be "grandfathered" in, permanently.

As you can see by the length of the Kubota post I've provided, I went easy on you guys, :laughing:, so I hope you will put on your "black and white" sunglasses, and ignore my Kubota (Orange) loyalties, and help a fellow TBN'er out, despite me being an ORANGE GUY. I may just go GREEN for yard work!

Does that make me "bi-colorful"? :laughing:

Thank you for ALL your help, especially since I am not of the Green Persuasion--at least not yet! LOL

My Hoe

 

[Martian]

Before Jenkinsph suggests it, you should look at an x749. Smaller, 4x4, diesel, nice little machines.

I've read through both of your threads, and your looking at way more tractor than you need. The 5740 would be overkill alone, but add this 4110 and you've got tractors to the point where they are in your way (I'm that way currently before I get rid of the 3120).

I'd think about an UTV to haul the log splitter and logs around and then a lawn tractor.

 

[rsewill]

I'll address #1. I have a 4100 and a Deere Z425 (zero turn mower.). The 4100 is quieter than the Z425. But I think I would wear ear protection while using either. But then I wear ear protection when driving a fairly quiet big truck for long periods due to noises I can hear as well as those I am unable to perceive.

 

[My Hoe]

Before Jenkinsph suggests it, you should look at an x749. Smaller, 4x4, diesel, nice little machines.

I've read through both of your threads, and your looking at way more tractor than you need. The 5740 would be overkill alone, but add this 4110 and you've got tractors to the point where they are in your way (I'm that way currently before I get rid of the 3120).

I'd think about an UTV to haul the log splitter and logs around and then a lawn tractor.

Martian,

First, let me thank you for reading "every word" of BOTH of my "novellas." I can only hope it was because you found them interesting/entertaining or some other positive thing, and not because you too suffer from OCD. Just kidding--I'm sure you're not similarly afflicted, as am I.

Second, I'd like to thank you for putting me on to the x749!

I found this link to the x749:
JohnDeere X749 Select Series X700 Lawn Tractors JohnDeere.com

Third, I'd like to thank you for not making your EXCELLENT ADVICE "sting," as some would have. By that I mean, you admit you may be a little "over-tractored" yourself--that made the "medicine" easier to swallow, if you know what I mean.

Can you please tell me, however, where the x749 falls, when compared to this "JD 3 series" I keep hearing so much about? Bigger? Smaller? Lighter? Or?

Also, I have yet to go to "Build Your Own," but I didn't yet see a ROPS available for the x749, but now that you've put me on the right track, I will look that up myself--unless you just happen to know, off the top of your head? Because I gotta have the ROPS. My g.f. has "Adult ADHD" (and something worse, mentally, in my opinion, but I don't know what, yet).

Bottom Line Is: if not rolling a tractor requires remembering NOT to do certain things, she (seemingly perversely--and not in a "dirty" way) will DO THE OPPOSITE of what is suggested.

So I gotta have the ROPS--for HERSELF.

Next Question: if the x749 starts at $13,500., what's so bad about having the 4110, with 60" deck, hydro plow and ROPS, for an asking price of $12,500? I mean, obviously, no warranty is the biggie, but do you see what I'm saying?

And if I DID buy two tractors, I think my guy would work with me for a better price. He kinda owes me one.

PRICING--My problem is: I know the prices for B2630's and B3030HSDCC's,
but I do NOT have a clue about pricing on the 4110's or the Grand L 5740's. Any advice on pricing, from ANYONE, re: these two machines, AND the x749, would be much appreciated.

Kubota's QA vs SSQA's:
Hey, Martian--here's another one you may know off the top of your head: I thought the QA on ALL Kuubota's were proprietary, making the switch to ATI's (ADI's?) SSQA advisable. Yet someone in another thread said the Grand L's QA was NOT proprietary, and WAS std. SSQA.

Which is it? (Only if you KNOW--I'll look it up, if it needs looking up.)

Center of Gravity--Lower Is Better--LOL
Is one of your reasons that you recommend the x749 because it could (or DOES?) have LOWER CENTER OF GRAVITY, than the 4110, as it appears it may, and therefore is less tippy than the 4110? Because that would make sense to me, given what you know about my g.f.'s absent-mindedness. (And please knock on REAL wood for her, too--she's far from mental wellness, IMNSHO).

But I DO see what you're saying--that x749 looks like one strong, compact little work horse!

Obviously, I've got more "window shopping" to do, now, on the J.D. site, but if you have the energy, sometime, please try to "talk me down" from the 4110, when you have time, more specifically, if you have the time and energy.

In the mean time, I'll try to tell one JD from another, and try to answer most of my questions myself, now that you've given me a place to start.

A UTV vs a Restored, Southern, Jeep
We live within 20-30 miles of THE MOST DANGEROUS NUKE PLANT IN THE ENTIRE US, PER THE NRC (or whatever the US Gov't'.'s acronymn is).

It is called "Indian Point." It leaks into the Hudson, has THE WORST SAFETY RECORD IN THE COUNTRY, and is UP FOR RELICENSING, in 2012 and 2013 (it has two reactors, with different "in service" dates, hence the discrepency).

FUN FACT:
The NRC has NEVER REFUSED A RELICENSING APPLICATION--EVER!

Almost ALL nuke plants were originally planned for decommissioning in 20 years--possibly some in 30 years.

Now, we are being told that "these plants have life spans of 50, even 150 years--what, me worry? BE HAPPY!

So it is recommended that savvy citizens have a "BUGOUT PLAN" (also known as GOOD Plan, aka "Get Out of Dodge" plan. This would include "Bug Out Bags" for EACH FAMILY MEMBER, and a BUGOUT VEHICLE.

Re: Your UTV Suggestion, To Move the Woodsplitter
To address you're excellent UTV suggestion, I'm thinking of a pre-1987 (?) Jeep CJ7, hardtop, anyway, as cars after those years WILL NOT run if there is an EMP (Electromagnetic Pulse), as from a nuke, solar flare (which NASA is predicting we will have the BIGGEST ONE OF, in 2012, in, IIRC, ELEVEN THOUSAND (11,000!) YEARS.

It is my understanding that a Mass Coronal Ejection (a HUGE solar flare) could have the SAME EMP effects upon computerized cars, phones, computers, etc.... In fact, upon EVERY PIECE OF ELECTRONICS THAT ISN'T "HARDENED" AGAINST EMP's," like the avionics in JET FIGHTERS, for just ONE example.

CONCLUSION: Keep those pre-1987 vehicles TUNED UP (I have to take my own advice on this, too.)

THE ONLY ENGINE GUARANTEED TO RUN IS A NON-ELECTRONICALLY-CONTROLLED DIESEL, THAT DOES NOT NEED A BATTERY TO RUN.
For example: You're neighbor's 2012, Dodge Ram Diesel Dually?
DEAD IN THE WATER-BECAUSE THE ECM runs the Diesel's fuel injection system.

Comparison: the college kid's 1979 Mercedes-Benz 240D, with the standard transmission? It WILL run, though he/she may have to "pop start" it, as I'm not sure what EMP's (be they from a nuke bomb or a Mass Coronal Ejection--also known as "SUNSPOTS"--WILL RUN!

Question:
Are Kubota's and JD's diesels COMPUTER CONTROLLED? ANYONE?

NASA ITSELF is Admitting That "PARTS OF THE COUNTRY'S ELECTRICAL GRID COULD BE OFF-LINE FOR UP TO 4 MONTHS." (NOT an exact quote--could have been 6 months. No time to source it, and [no offense] I'm not so sure how many here would be even BELIEVE NASA said this, let alone be interested in it, as it's not a CERTAINTY that it will happen THIS YEAR--but I DID see a NASA SCIENTIST SAY IT, when I was watching an educational show on "The Big Glass Eye."

And the 11,000 cycle is overdue for it to happpen.

Personally, I'm not satisfied that even a simple IGNITION COIL will work after an EMP, but I just realized EXTRA COILS COULD BE STORED IN A "FARADAY CAGE," which I believe can be as simple as a LEAD BOX, or possibly even TINFOIL. (Okay, someone has to make the joke about me needing a "tinfoil hat" now--I'm ready for it--*sigh*--go ahead. And I DO NOT believe "Martian" will be the one to do so, as he is TOO SMART.) :thumbsup:

So, we were gonna buy or build up a "Bugout Jeep" anyway--that could certainly pull the wood splitter around, possibly climb a 30-degree slope, be safer if it failed to do so, and rolled. Meantime, it could also plow snow, play Classic Rock and still get to the grocery (legally, unlike a snowmobile or UTV) and run 60 mph, if one had to. All while costing $8,000., semi-restified, up to, say, $12,000., for a NICE, SOUTHERN (rust-free) model.

I just can't mow the lawn with the CJ7--LOL

But then, I can't mow the lawn with the UTV, either! LOL

LINK: Jeep CJ
Jeep CJ - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Grand L5740 Is Overkill As It IS:
And you're right, Martian--the Grand L5740 is waaaay more POWER than I need. But I guess, from growing up in a heavy construction business (my Dad and his partner used to do dirt work, and crane work, then specialized in subcontracting hydraulic crane work only--two guys, four cranes--yeah, they were busy, in demand, and great at what they did.

I learned, at age 14, how to run the 6 ton hydraulic crane, (a crane which they BUILT, using an old telephone company's three section, hydraulic CRANE (not a "cherry picker") and MARRIED to a 10 wheel, Brockway Dump Truck, that they removed the dump box from, then built a steel, diamond-plate, 12'-16' deck on the back of. And they progressed from there, along with their 25 ton Linkbelt "lattice boom" truck crane. My Dad sold the business, after a successful 20 years, and the business, and it's clientele, lives on today.

My DAD--My HERO
In fact, my Dad, at 87, still "dabbles," working part time for a guy who used to work for him, sometimes. (Please knock on wood three times for my Dad, if you wouldn't mind? He's the sweetest, gentlest "gentleman" I've ever known.

He dropped out of school at 16 when his mother died, was one of a family of TEN (10!) kids, got drafted at 17 or 18, and is a DECORATED WWII COMBAT vet, Philippine Theatre, (who, stereotypically of REAL heros, almost NEVER talks about it, and only reluctantly, when asked.

In the Philippines, he saw half his company blown to bits when a "Lucky Strike" (sorry, I shouldn't pun) by a Japanese plane blew up their ammo dump. He was a Motor Pool Sergeant, who came home to raise two girls, owned and operated a Sinclair Service Station, then adopted me, had my half-brother with my mom, learned to use the INTERNET from me, 6 years ago, USES IT DAILY, operates a GPS for work (I've never used one) and still rebuilds antique Mack Trucks, though he sold most of his collection a few years ago.

Now he's on his second truck since he "quit" that hobby--just like I predicted. He even restored an antique fire truck, afer cutting SEVERAL FEET OUT OF THE CENTER OF IT, as it wouldn't fit in his 32' deep shop.

Most of his trucks went back to the late teens, early '20's--chain drive and WOODEN, SPOKED WHEELS WITH HARD RUBBER TIRES. He even did the interiors and MANUFACTURED THE CURVED, SLIDING, STEEL "POCKET DOORS" for the AC-CABBED" styled trucks for the AC (or AB? I forget) Macks, of the early '20's.

So, thanks for "knocking on REAL wood three times," for him, and for all your help, as well.

Don't NEED a Grand L, But Kinda Want One
Anywaaay, I guess the Grand L5740 is to scratch the itch of not pursuing a career in the heavy construction business, even though I know how to, and did, operate cranes from 6 tons up to a 55 ton Grove hydraulic.

But the partners (my Dad and his partner) had a rule: "No kids in the business" (at least, officially).

So I did a lot of "yard jobs" with the cranes, where I didn't need to be licensed, and a few of the other kind, when nobody was looking. :thumbsup:

So, that's what's up with the Grand L thing.

Okay, there IS one more teeensie, weensie piece in the Grand L calculus:

The man my Dad occasionally still works for works for, now, owns a Grand L5740, is a complete A-****, is 130 lbs. of mouth and ego, and is MY tenant/house guest, in a house I maintain for my g.f. I did nearly EVERYTHING for this man, like teach him to feed himself in the absence of a female, as his MARRIAGE COLLAPSED, and I busted my *** to get a vacant house we own READY FOR HIM, at BELOW MARKET RENTAL RATES--because he was more "friend/guest" than tenant. I also taught this ***** how to use the web, too, only HE MADE IT DIFFICULT AS H*LL, unlike my Dad, when I taught him.

This snake/tennant has ABUSED MY GOOD NATURE, conned me into working FOR him, for free, FOR MONTHS (because I thought he was my father's friend--turns out, my father does NOT approve of this snake's business ethics (as NO ONE who knows him does) they are NOT "friends," this man has TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF MY FATHER, FAILED TO PAY MY FATHER MANY TIMES, and this man has even stolen from me, not to mentioned just started **** between my Dad and me, for his own, sick, twisted reasons.

Oh--and he put hands on me, twice, in anger, UNPROVOKED by anything but his rage at his wife, and I LET him, despite my physical size and 10 years of (relative) "youth" on him--because of who I thought he was, to my Dad. This snake was collecting DUI's at the time, and I was essentially running an (unpaid) "halfway house for men who don't know their marriages are over."

However, NOW THAT I KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT FRIENDS, the next time he tries to put hands on me, UNPROVOKED (I've never even raised my VOICE to this little jerk) will end quite differently. 'Nuff said.

(If my Dad has a significant failing, it is the one common to SO many of what Tom Brokaw coined, in his book title, "The Greatest Generation": my father is not very verbose, so he's not always the best communicator);.

Hence, my failure to realize the true nature of their relationship--forty years of business dealings--NOT "friendship."

Why the Grand L5740, When I Don't "Need" It?

Because, coincidentally, the funny part is? This ******* just happens to own a Grand L 5740, which my father has used a lot, recently, in working for this "little man," and I thought it would burn this "Little Big Man Syndrome-guy's" *** if I bought the same tractor as he had, just because I could.

Sick, maybe. Fun? I'm thinkin'...YES!

I was originally going to get a B2630, but this snake BROKE HIS WORD to come check it out on the day we planned to, and it was bought out from under me. Now, as you'll read below, I'm GLAD that happened, as it had no cab. Now I will ONLY consider a cabbed TLB, due to the fact that we, on the EAST COAST, have been receiving radiation from the MULTIPLE MELTDOWNS in Fukushima, Japan, FOR MONTHS.

Your Gov't. Is LYING to You, About Fukushima
Yup--it's true. You just don't see it on "the big glass eye" because GE, who DESIGNED AND BUILT the SIX FAILING REACTORS, (and we have 33 of the SAME DESIGN, here, in the U.S.) owns NBC and used to own half of MSNBC, or maybe still does.

Now consider that GE is the 17th largest DEFENSE CONTRACTOR.

Get the picture? It's the opposite of that old saw:
"What's good for GM is good for America!"

IOW, CEO of GE, Jeffery Immelt, RUNS A COMPANY THAT BUILDS NUKE PLANTS THAT POISON OUR AIR, WATER AND FOOD.

And they build nuclear weapons, too.
Now, "What's good for GE is Good for GE--NOT (necessarily) for "America," if you consider "America" to me made up of REAL PEOPLE, who need to EAT SAFE FOOD, DRINK NON-IRRADIATED MILK, WATER, ETC..., AND BREATHE NON-IRRADIATED AIR.

Here is a link to an article I did NOT read, that may NOT be related to this discussion, but will show you Jeffery Immelt's FACE:

The Jobs Czar: General Electric's Jeffrey Immelt
The Jobs Czar: General Electric's Jeffrey Immelt - CBS News

Jeffery Immelt is, I believe, credited with coming up with GE's (now several year old) "Ecomagination" advertising campaign.

A more apt moniker, IMNSHO, would be "EcoTERMINATION." But again, that's only if you want to eat, breathe and drink uniradiated food, air, and water, like GROW YOUR OWN VEGETABLES, WITH YOUR SCUT, CUT OR UT.

Where, pray tell, do these "high rollers" think THEY'RE going to get clean Air, Food and Water, for THEIR kids? Or themselves, for that matter?

At SOME point, it HAS to stop being about "The Benjamins," and be about WE, the PEOPLE. Okay, enough of what the uninformed might call "politics," but I call SURVIVAL VS EXTINCTION--OF US, THE HUMANS.
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Jeep vs. UTV? I Understand A Fair Bit About Nuclear Disasters
I had a little environmental radio show at one time, studied the meltdown at Three Mile Island in college, THE YEAR AFTER IT HAPPENED, because my teacher was OBSESSED with it, and now I'm obsessed with Fuku, and the way BOTH Gov't.'s (Japans and OURS) are suppressing reports like "six times the normal radioactivity found in NYC milk," two months ago., as just ONE such example. I could go on and on, with Fuku facts, from non-governmental sources, as you might well guess.

Here's a fun fact:
The EPA went from monitoring radiation (not sure if just airborne, or milk, water, crops, etc...) WEEKLY, to QUARTERLY, AFTER TWO East Coast universities (Boston being one) found highly elevated levels of Cesium 130-something (from Fuku) in the high-volume AIR INTAKES of the Universities' HVAC systems.

But MOST universities get SOME gov't. funding--so you're not gonna read, nor hear, much about it--unless you DIG. (Hence my desire for the Woods BH80-X--j/k).

Why I Now Want a Cabbed Tractor
I've also read that snowflakes bring down FOUR TIMES the amount of radiation as do raindrops, as they've got a MUCH greater surface area, and allegedly (I don't personally know this for a fact) fall FOUR TIMES SLOWER THAN RAINDROPS, which I can see with my own eyes--I just cannot quantify/verify the "four times as slowly" part. But I can SEE, however, that they fall FAR slower than raindrops.

Therefore, they've got a LOT more time to CONCENTRATE the radiation.

So, it was either a B3030HSDCC (which I can't find, new, yet built pre-Fukushima--and I don't want to be sitting in/on an even possibly radioactive tractor--until I saw the Grand L.

Now, lest you think me crazier than you already may, for the last few months, either New Zealand or Australia (can't keep 'em straight) has been scanning ALL Japanese cars at the ports, for radioactivity.

No, I can't tell you I know they've rejected any, but if any "First World Gov't." is taking it that seriously, then so am I.

Why Not a New B-Series?
I don't like the shorter wheelbases of the new B's--I liked the B2630 and B3030 for all the "toys," plus their longer wheelbase, as I want to hang a Woods BH80-X off of the back of one, because only THAT Woods (and possibly bigger ones) have the adjustable swing speed on the hoe boom.

The shorter wheel bases of the new "B's" would not be conducive to an 8' Woods hoe, which I'm told can throw a B3030 around--with ease.

PLUS, I checked the specs, and the outriggers on the Woods hoe are almost a FOOT WIDER, than the equivalent Kubota hoe. Again, for the "crane work" I've got in mind, around the place, for the hoe,I like the LONGER WHEELBASE and the WIDER OUTRIGGERS that the combo of the Woods BH80-X and either a B3030HDCC or Grand L offers.

And I have an itch to do some "craning" with my hoe, especially in light of my back situation, and our wish to garden again, etc.... (Please knock again, 3 times, on REAL wood, for my back? Thanks).

So now you know why the Grand L interested me.

I'd write more but the neck spasm I'm getting says it's quittin' time, and I suspect you've actually GOT a life (LOL) so I'll not keep you any longer, here. Plus, I promised the Kubota crowd I'd explain why I wanted to move around inside the red building with a TLB. Unfortunately, that's probably not going to happen for a few more days, as I may be headed out of town.

But I look forward to more discourse, Martian (and anyone else who's still awake) particularly on the x749, with you, when you've got the time and energy.

In the meantime, all the best, and THANK YOU VERY MUCH, Martian!

Sincerely,

My Hoe

 

[Martian]

My Hoe,

My pleasure, haven't gone crazy... yet Sounds like you have a great father as well! I have gained a lot of knowledge reading your posts!

To answer some of your questions;

I don't believe the x749 can be had with a ROPS. With that said I did recommend it because it has a much lower center of gravity and much more stable on your hills than the 4110. If you require a ROPS I would get a ZTR (zero turn radius mower) with a ROPS. Although not as stable as a x749 they are very stable and have a ROPS. My point is more that a smaller lawn machine would work a lot better than the 4110, even from a weight stand point that it would tear up your lawn more. But, if you want a tractor with a ROPS that puts you into the SCUTs and the 4110 would be right in that category. I just think that another tractor isn't your best option, but that's more for you to decide.

As far as overkill goes, I'm in the same boat as you. When I got the 5410 I really only needed about a 50HP tractor to pull a baler, but I've never kicked myself having that extra 35HP. I just don't think the 4110 would be your best option. I think your on the right track with the 5740, though. Nice machine and will have plenty of power for anything that comes up.

UTVs are great for hauling wood and your splitter around, but a Jeep will do that as well, though the log hauling ability is more limited. The Jeep doesn't have a cargo bed, but I do see your want for one. The same dealer your looking at does have a couple RTVs and Gators listed online for you to take a look at before make your decision though.

 

[murphy1244]

Martian,

First, let me thank you for reading "every word" of BOTH of my "novellas." I can only hope it was because you found them interesting/entertaining or some other positive thing, and not because you too suffer from OCD. Just kidding--I'm sure you're not similarly afflicted, as am I.

Second, I'd like to thank you for putting me on to the x749!

I found this link to the x749:
JohnDeere X749 Select Series X700 Lawn Tractors JohnDeere.com

Third, I'd like to thank you for not making your EXCELLENT ADVICE "sting," as some would have. By that I mean, you admit you may be a little "over-tractored" yourself--that made the "medicine" easier to swallow, if you know what I mean.

Can you please tell me, however, where the x749 falls, when compared to this "JD 3 series" I keep hearing so much about? Bigger? Smaller? Lighter? Or?

Also, I have yet to go to "Build Your Own," but I didn't yet see a ROPS available for the x749, but now that you've put me on the right track, I will look that up myself--unless you just happen to know, off the top of your head? Because I gotta have the ROPS. My g.f. has "Adult ADHD" (and something worse, mentally, in my opinion, but I don't know what, yet).

Bottom Line Is: if not rolling a tractor requires remembering NOT to do certain things, she (seemingly perversely--and not in a "dirty" way) will DO THE OPPOSITE of what is suggested.

So I gotta have the ROPS--for HERSELF.

Next Question: if the x749 starts at $13,500., what's so bad about having the 4110, with 60" deck, hydro plow and ROPS, for an asking price of $12,500? I mean, obviously, no warranty is the biggie, but do you see what I'm saying?

And if I DID buy two tractors, I think my guy would work with me for a better price. He kinda owes me one.

PRICING--My problem is: I know the prices for B2630's and B3030HSDCC's,
but I do NOT have a clue about pricing on the 4110's or the Grand L 5740's. Any advice on pricing, from ANYONE, re: these two machines, AND the x749, would be much appreciated.

Kubota's QA vs SSQA's:
Hey, Martian--here's another one you may know off the top of your head: I thought the QA on ALL Kuubota's were proprietary, making the switch to ATI's (ADI's?) SSQA advisable. Yet someone in another thread said the Grand L's QA was NOT proprietary, and WAS std. SSQA.

Which is it? (Only if you KNOW--I'll look it up, if it needs looking up.)

Center of Gravity--Lower Is Better--LOL
Is one of your reasons that you recommend the x749 because it could (or DOES?) have LOWER CENTER OF GRAVITY, than the 4110, as it appears it may, and therefore is less tippy than the 4110? Because that would make sense to me, given what you know about my g.f.'s absent-mindedness. (And please knock on REAL wood for her, too--she's far from mental wellness, IMNSHO).

But I DO see what you're saying--that x749 looks like one strong, compact little work horse!

Obviously, I've got more "window shopping" to do, now, on the J.D. site, but if you have the energy, sometime, please try to "talk me down" from the 4110, when you have time, more specifically, if you have the time and energy.

In the mean time, I'll try to tell one JD from another, and try to answer most of my questions myself, now that you've given me a place to start.

A UTV vs a Restored, Southern, Jeep
We live within 20-30 miles of THE MOST DANGEROUS NUKE PLANT IN THE ENTIRE US, PER THE NRC (or whatever the US Gov't'.'s acronymn is).

It is called "Indian Point." It leaks into the Hudson, has THE WORST SAFETY RECORD IN THE COUNTRY, and is UP FOR RELICENSING, in 2012 and 2013 (it has two reactors, with different "in service" dates, hence the discrepency).

FUN FACT:
The NRC has NEVER REFUSED A RELICENSING APPLICATION--EVER!

Almost ALL nuke plants were originally planned for decommissioning in 20 years--possibly some in 30 years.

Now, we are being told that "these plants have life spans of 50, even 150 years--what, me worry? BE HAPPY!

So it is recommended that savvy citizens have a "BUGOUT PLAN" (also known as GOOD Plan, aka "Get Out of Dodge" plan. This would include "Bug Out Bags" for EACH FAMILY MEMBER, and a BUGOUT VEHICLE.

Re: Your UTV Suggestion, To Move the Woodsplitter
To address you're excellent UTV suggestion, I'm thinking of a pre-1987 (?) Jeep CJ7, hardtop, anyway, as cars after those years WILL NOT run if there is an EMP (Electromagnetic Pulse), as from a nuke, solar flare (which NASA is predicting we will have the BIGGEST ONE OF, in 2012, in, IIRC, ELEVEN THOUSAND (11,000!) YEARS.

It is my understanding that a Mass Coronal Ejection (a HUGE solar flare) could have the SAME EMP effects upon computerized cars, phones, computers, etc.... In fact, upon EVERY PIECE OF ELECTRONICS THAT ISN'T "HARDENED" AGAINST EMP's," like the avionics in JET FIGHTERS, for just ONE example.

CONCLUSION: Keep those pre-1987 vehicles TUNED UP (I have to take my own advice on this, too.)

THE ONLY ENGINE GUARANTEED TO RUN IS A NON-ELECTRONICALLY-CONTROLLED DIESEL, THAT DOES NOT NEED A BATTERY TO RUN.
For example: You're neighbor's 2012, Dodge Ram Diesel Dually?
DEAD IN THE WATER-BECAUSE THE ECM runs the Diesel's fuel injection system.

Comparison: the college kid's 1979 Mercedes-Benz 240D, with the standard transmission? It WILL run, though he/she may have to "pop start" it, as I'm not sure what EMP's (be they from a nuke bomb or a Mass Coronal Ejection--also known as "SUNSPOTS"--WILL RUN!

Question:
Are Kubota's and JD's diesels COMPUTER CONTROLLED? ANYONE?

NASA ITSELF is Admitting That "PARTS OF THE COUNTRY'S ELECTRICAL GRID COULD BE OFF-LINE FOR UP TO 4 MONTHS." (NOT an exact quote--could have been 6 months. No time to source it, and [no offense] I'm not so sure how many here would be even BELIEVE NASA said this, let alone be interested in it, as it's not a CERTAINTY that it will happen THIS YEAR--but I DID see a NASA SCIENTIST SAY IT, when I was watching an educational show on "The Big Glass Eye."

And the 11,000 cycle is overdue for it to happpen.

Personally, I'm not satisfied that even a simple IGNITION COIL will work after an EMP, but I just realized EXTRA COILS COULD BE STORED IN A "FARADAY CAGE," which I believe can be as simple as a LEAD BOX, or possibly even TINFOIL. (Okay, someone has to make the joke about me needing a "tinfoil hat" now--I'm ready for it--*sigh*--go ahead. And I DO NOT believe "Martian" will be the one to do so, as he is TOO SMART.) :thumbsup:

So, we were gonna buy or build up a "Bugout Jeep" anyway--that could certainly pull the wood splitter around, possibly climb a 30-degree slope, be safer if it failed to do so, and rolled. Meantime, it could also plow snow, play Classic Rock and still get to the grocery (legally, unlike a snowmobile or UTV) and run 60 mph, if one had to. All while costing $8,000., semi-restified, up to, say, $12,000., for a NICE, SOUTHERN (rust-free) model.

I just can't mow the lawn with the CJ7--LOL

But then, I can't mow the lawn with the UTV, either! LOL

LINK: Jeep CJ
Jeep CJ - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Grand L5740 Is Overkill As It IS:
And you're right, Martian--the Grand L5740 is waaaay more POWER than I need. But I guess, from growing up in a heavy construction business (my Dad and his partner used to do dirt work, and crane work, then specialized in subcontracting hydraulic crane work only--two guys, four cranes--yeah, they were busy, in demand, and great at what they did.

I learned, at age 14, how to run the 6 ton hydraulic crane, (a crane which they BUILT, using an old telephone company's three section, hydraulic CRANE (not a "cherry picker") and MARRIED to a 10 wheel, Brockway Dump Truck, that they removed the dump box from, then built a steel, diamond-plate, 12'-16' deck on the back of. And they progressed from there, along with their 25 ton Linkbelt "lattice boom" truck crane. My Dad sold the business, after a successful 20 years, and the business, and it's clientele, lives on today.

My DAD--My HERO
In fact, my Dad, at 87, still "dabbles," working part time for a guy who used to work for him, sometimes. (Please knock on wood three times for my Dad, if you wouldn't mind? He's the sweetest, gentlest "gentleman" I've ever known.

He dropped out of school at 16 when his mother died, was one of a family of TEN (10!) kids, got drafted at 17 or 18, and is a DECORATED WWII COMBAT vet, Philippine Theatre, (who, stereotypically of REAL heros, almost NEVER talks about it, and only reluctantly, when asked.

In the Philippines, he saw half his company blown to bits when a "Lucky Strike" (sorry, I shouldn't pun) by a Japanese plane blew up their ammo dump. He was a Motor Pool Sergeant, who came home to raise two girls, owned and operated a Sinclair Service Station, then adopted me, had my half-brother with my mom, learned to use the INTERNET from me, 6 years ago, USES IT DAILY, operates a GPS for work (I've never used one) and still rebuilds antique Mack Trucks, though he sold most of his collection a few years ago.

Now he's on his second truck since he "quit" that hobby--just like I predicted. He even restored an antique fire truck, afer cutting SEVERAL FEET OUT OF THE CENTER OF IT, as it wouldn't fit in his 32' deep shop.

Most of his trucks went back to the late teens, early '20's--chain drive and WOODEN, SPOKED WHEELS WITH HARD RUBBER TIRES. He even did the interiors and MANUFACTURED THE CURVED, SLIDING, STEEL "POCKET DOORS" for the AC-CABBED" styled trucks for the AC (or AB? I forget) Macks, of the early '20's.

So, thanks for "knocking on REAL wood three times," for him, and for all your help, as well.

Don't NEED a Grand L, But Kinda Want One
Anywaaay, I guess the Grand L5740 is to scratch the itch of not pursuing a career in the heavy construction business, even though I know how to, and did, operate cranes from 6 tons up to a 55 ton Grove hydraulic.

But the partners (my Dad and his partner) had a rule: "No kids in the business" (at least, officially).

So I did a lot of "yard jobs" with the cranes, where I didn't need to be licensed, and a few of the other kind, when nobody was looking. :thumbsup:

So, that's what's up with the Grand L thing.

Okay, there IS one more teeensie, weensie piece in the Grand L calculus:

The man my Dad occasionally still works for works for, now, owns a Grand L5740, is a complete A-****, is 130 lbs. of mouth and ego, and is MY tenant/house guest, in a house I maintain for my g.f. I did nearly EVERYTHING for this man, like teach him to feed himself in the absence of a female, as his MARRIAGE COLLAPSED, and I busted my *** to get a vacant house we own READY FOR HIM, at BELOW MARKET RENTAL RATES--because he was more "friend/guest" than tenant. I also taught this ***** how to use the web, too, only HE MADE IT DIFFICULT AS H*LL, unlike my Dad, when I taught him.

This snake/tennant has ABUSED MY GOOD NATURE, conned me into working FOR him, for free, FOR MONTHS (because I thought he was my father's friend--turns out, my father does NOT approve of this snake's business ethics (as NO ONE who knows him does) they are NOT "friends," this man has TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF MY FATHER, FAILED TO PAY MY FATHER MANY TIMES, and this man has even stolen from me, not to mentioned just started **** between my Dad and me, for his own, sick, twisted reasons.

Oh--and he put hands on me, twice, in anger, UNPROVOKED by anything but his rage at his wife, and I LET him, despite my physical size and 10 years of (relative) "youth" on him--because of who I thought he was, to my Dad. This snake was collecting DUI's at the time, and I was essentially running an (unpaid) "halfway house for men who don't know their marriages are over."

However, NOW THAT I KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT FRIENDS, the next time he tries to put hands on me, UNPROVOKED (I've never even raised my VOICE to this little jerk) will end quite differently. 'Nuff said.

(If my Dad has a significant failing, it is the one common to SO many of what Tom Brokaw coined, in his book title, "The Greatest Generation": my father is not very verbose, so he's not always the best communicator);.

Hence, my failure to realize the true nature of their relationship--forty years of business dealings--NOT "friendship."

Why the Grand L5740, When I Don't "Need" It?

Because, coincidentally, the funny part is? This ******* just happens to own a Grand L 5740, which my father has used a lot, recently, in working for this "little man," and I thought it would burn this "Little Big Man Syndrome-guy's" *** if I bought the same tractor as he had, just because I could.

Sick, maybe. Fun? I'm thinkin'...YES!

I was originally going to get a B2630, but this snake BROKE HIS WORD to come check it out on the day we planned to, and it was bought out from under me. Now, as you'll read below, I'm GLAD that happened, as it had no cab. Now I will ONLY consider a cabbed TLB, due to the fact that we, on the EAST COAST, have been receiving radiation from the MULTIPLE MELTDOWNS in Fukushima, Japan, FOR MONTHS.

Your Gov't. Is LYING to You, About Fukushima
Yup--it's true. You just don't see it on "the big glass eye" because GE, who DESIGNED AND BUILT the SIX FAILING REACTORS, (and we have 33 of the SAME DESIGN, here, in the U.S.) owns NBC and used to own half of MSNBC, or maybe still does.

Now consider that GE is the 17th largest DEFENSE CONTRACTOR.

Get the picture? It's the opposite of that old saw:
"What's good for GM is good for America!"

IOW, CEO of GE, Jeffery Immelt, RUNS A COMPANY THAT BUILDS NUKE PLANTS THAT POISON OUR AIR, WATER AND FOOD.

And they build nuclear weapons, too.
Now, "What's good for GE is Good for GE--NOT (necessarily) for "America," if you consider "America" to me made up of REAL PEOPLE, who need to EAT SAFE FOOD, DRINK NON-IRRADIATED MILK, WATER, ETC..., AND BREATHE NON-IRRADIATED AIR.

Here is a link to an article I did NOT read, that may NOT be related to this discussion, but will show you Jeffery Immelt's FACE:

The Jobs Czar: General Electric's Jeffrey Immelt
The Jobs Czar: General Electric's Jeffrey Immelt - CBS News

Jeffery Immelt is, I believe, credited with coming up with GE's (now several year old) "Ecomagination" advertising campaign.

A more apt moniker, IMNSHO, would be "EcoTERMINATION." But again, that's only if you want to eat, breathe and drink uniradiated food, air, and water, like GROW YOUR OWN VEGETABLES, WITH YOUR SCUT, CUT OR UT.

Where, pray tell, do these "high rollers" think THEY'RE going to get clean Air, Food and Water, for THEIR kids? Or themselves, for that matter?

At SOME point, it HAS to stop being about "The Benjamins," and be about WE, the PEOPLE. Okay, enough of what the uninformed might call "politics," but I call SURVIVAL VS EXTINCTION--OF US, THE HUMANS.
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Jeep vs. UTV? I Understand A Fair Bit About Nuclear Disasters
I had a little environmental radio show at one time, studied the meltdown at Three Mile Island in college, THE YEAR AFTER IT HAPPENED, because my teacher was OBSESSED with it, and now I'm obsessed with Fuku, and the way BOTH Gov't.'s (Japans and OURS) are suppressing reports like "six times the normal radioactivity found in NYC milk," two months ago., as just ONE such example. I could go on and on, with Fuku facts, from non-governmental sources, as you might well guess.

Here's a fun fact:
The EPA went from monitoring radiation (not sure if just airborne, or milk, water, crops, etc...) WEEKLY, to QUARTERLY, AFTER TWO East Coast universities (Boston being one) found highly elevated levels of Cesium 130-something (from Fuku) in the high-volume AIR INTAKES of the Universities' HVAC systems.

But MOST universities get SOME gov't. funding--so you're not gonna read, nor hear, much about it--unless you DIG. (Hence my desire for the Woods BH80-X--j/k).

Why I Now Want a Cabbed Tractor
I've also read that snowflakes bring down FOUR TIMES the amount of radiation as do raindrops, as they've got a MUCH greater surface area, and allegedly (I don't personally know this for a fact) fall FOUR TIMES SLOWER THAN RAINDROPS, which I can see with my own eyes--I just cannot quantify/verify the "four times as slowly" part. But I can SEE, however, that they fall FAR slower than raindrops.

Therefore, they've got a LOT more time to CONCENTRATE the radiation.

So, it was either a B3030HSDCC (which I can't find, new, yet built pre-Fukushima--and I don't want to be sitting in/on an even possibly radioactive tractor--until I saw the Grand L.

Now, lest you think me crazier than you already may, for the last few months, either New Zealand or Australia (can't keep 'em straight) has been scanning ALL Japanese cars at the ports, for radioactivity.

No, I can't tell you I know they've rejected any, but if any "First World Gov't." is taking it that seriously, then so am I.

Why Not a New B-Series?
I don't like the shorter wheelbases of the new B's--I liked the B2630 and B3030 for all the "toys," plus their longer wheelbase, as I want to hang a Woods BH80-X off of the back of one, because only THAT Woods (and possibly bigger ones) have the adjustable swing speed on the hoe boom.

The shorter wheel bases of the new "B's" would not be conducive to an 8' Woods hoe, which I'm told can throw a B3030 around--with ease.

PLUS, I checked the specs, and the outriggers on the Woods hoe are almost a FOOT WIDER, than the equivalent Kubota hoe. Again, for the "crane work" I've got in mind, around the place, for the hoe,I like the LONGER WHEELBASE and the WIDER OUTRIGGERS that the combo of the Woods BH80-X and either a B3030HDCC or Grand L offers.

And I have an itch to do some "craning" with my hoe, especially in light of my back situation, and our wish to garden again, etc.... (Please knock again, 3 times, on REAL wood, for my back? Thanks).

So now you know why the Grand L interested me.

I'd write more but the neck spasm I'm getting says it's quittin' time, and I suspect you've actually GOT a life (LOL) so I'll not keep you any longer, here. Plus, I promised the Kubota crowd I'd explain why I wanted to move around inside the red building with a TLB. Unfortunately, that's probably not going to happen for a few more days, as I may be headed out of town.

But I look forward to more discourse, Martian (and anyone else who's still awake) particularly on the x749, with you, when you've got the time and energy.

In the meantime, all the best, and THANK YOU VERY MUCH, Martian!

Sincerely,

My Hoe

Go buy a Simplicity Conquest or Legacy to cut grass with. My God do you like to write..

 

[Low Bucket]

Go buy a Simplicity Conquest or Legacy to cut grass with. My God do you like to write..

:laughing:

That's what I thought.:laughing:

Right now I have so many different tabs opened up from this post and the one in the Kubota forum, that I don't even know where to begin.:laughing:

I'll say this.- Good luck "My Hoe" and don't let your Kubota buddies catch you in here.:laughing:

Go green or yellow (JD 110 TLB).

 

[shortthrow50]

Cliff notes?