Loaded tire discovery

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GreatWhitehunter

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So I've had my 3320 since 06 and I bought it from a dealer in FL through my local dealer. Until 2008 I never knew my tires were loaded. I had the need to remove one and during that process I made the discovery. I hadn't given much thought to the load contents until today.

I had a slow leak on the bead for one of the fronts and decided to check all 4 tires PSI. When I got to the rears I was shocked to find plain h20 in them.

I feel kind of stupid about it since I should have had some clue to look at it.
I rarely use my tractor in the winter but several times after cold snaps I've used it and the wheel seemed to have a wobble as if frozen.

Now how upset can I be, I never asked them to fill the tires and perhaps it's standard OP to use water in the warmer states. I guess the lesson here is you get what you pay for and never assume anything.:ashamed:

Matt
 
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Yeah they should have added some antifreeze with water to keep the water from freezing. They usually ask if you wont the tires loaded but most folks do,so they go ahead but should ask or know what to put in them. Even us folks down south have freezing so it would do damage to the tires here also...
 
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I bought my 3320 used with low hours off the lot of the original dealer in South Carolina, the tires (R4s) were not filled. I have since loaded the rears with 2 gallons of anti-freeze each and up to the 12 o'clock valve stem with water.

There is not much of a chance of freezing the water down this way, but when it is cold for several days when I use the tractor the tires are stiffer than I recall them being when not filled.

The performance of my tractor is greatly enhanced with loaded rears and feels less tippy, so the water is gonna stay.
 
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haven't you noticed vibrations during the winter from being frozen? glad you found it by now tho, now you can add antifreeze if you don't want to remove the water to lower freezing point.
 
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Now I'd be more concerned that the radiator coolant isn't just water. ;)

But doubt you did damage from freezing. When warm, remove most of water and replace with windshield washer fluid.

How'd a FL tractor get to CT? Better deal, or moved from FL? just curious, don't need to know. ;)
 
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Now I'd be more concerned that the radiator coolant isn't just water. ;)

But doubt you did damage from freezing. When warm, remove most of water and replace with windshield washer fluid.

How'd a FL tractor get to CT? Better deal, or moved from FL? just curious, don't need to know. ;)

The same way all other tractors and eq get to dealers. Via truck of course, the Northeast is very high price compared to most of the south so if your willing to shop around you can find alot better pricing. Fairly common around here. I'm not really worried about damage, just more of a fyi.

Matt
 
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haven't you noticed vibrations during the winter from being frozen? glad you found it by now tho, now you can add antifreeze if you don't want to remove the water to lower freezing point.

Like I said, I don't use my tractor in the winter much and when I do it's in low range for about 200' so I was never too obvious. Plus she resides in my garage and although not heated it's alot warmer than the outside so I think it only freezes when the temps are below teens for a week or more. I plan to add antifreeze in the spring.

Matt
 
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Way back when (the 70's)...I had a 56 IH Utility 330 that I used to use in the woods...had loaded tires and one day I snapped off a valve stem while in the woods (learned then to weld valve stem protectors on the rim..aka short piece of pipe)...brought the tire to a local tire dealer for repairs and to be refilled...apparently (their story) rainwater had diluted their barrel they kept their solution in....got the tire home, put it back on....it froze up....resulting in yet another trip to this tire dealer..who made it good.....but I was not a happy camper...in that it was a 45 minute trip to and from and those tires weren't the easiest to move about. Thankfully the U330 had downpressure on the hitch so I could use that to lift the rear tires.
 
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The same way all other tractors and eq get to dealers. Via truck of course, the Northeast is very high price compared to most of the south so if your willing to shop around you can find alot better pricing. Fairly common around here. I'm not really worried about damage, just more of a fyi.

Matt

Aint that the truth
 
   / Loaded tire discovery #10  
So I've had my 3320 since 06 and I bought it from a dealer in FL through my local dealer. Until 2008 I never knew my tires were loaded. I had the need to remove one and during that process I made the discovery. I hadn't given much thought to the load contents until today.

I had a slow leak on the bead for one of the fronts and decided to check all 4 tires PSI. When I got to the rears I was shocked to find plain h20 in them.

I feel kind of stupid about it since I should have had some clue to look at it.
I rarely use my tractor in the winter but several times after cold snaps I've used it and the wheel seemed to have a wobble as if frozen.

Now how upset can I be, I never asked them to fill the tires and perhaps it's standard OP to use water in the warmer states. I guess the lesson here is you get what you pay for and never assume anything.:ashamed:

Matt

I find it a LITTLE surprising that you didn't just feel that they are loaded, assuming they are loaded up to about the 75% level.
There is SO MUCH DIFFERENCE that (IMO) it is kinda hard to miss.

OTOH, I don't have much idea what size your tractor is.
Maybe a hundred or two pounds in a small tire doesn't feel like much, though I suppose with small tires on a light tractor I would still expect it to show.

I'm in Mass, it gets cold here, but I have left 55 gallon drums out full of water and it takes a long time at very low temperatures for them to freeze SOLID.

I am trying to imagine what happens if/when a tractor tire freezes.
A couple or three inches of ice across the top ? OK, that will probably break up when it gets to the bottom.
The flat on the bottom... ?? I don't know about that, it is against the ground and holding down some "day heat" - assuming the days get up above freezing.
Then again, if the sun hits the black rubber your old friend solar gain has an effect.

Hmmm, nothing I'm going to experiment with, though I don't recollect any frozen tire disaster stories on TBN, so it may all not matter THAT MUCH.
 

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