diesel prices

[Don87]

Exactly!:mur:

Cool.........I just read your tag line.

"A costitutional republic will only stand until the people realize they can vote themselves money" Benjamin Franklin


“Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.” – Benjamin Franklin from the mind of…..sanity optional


So many just don't understand the ramifications of what is happening.

 

[Loren49]

My understanding is that the policy is to make us pay the full cost, not an artificially low cost so that we don't waste and so that alternative development is encouraged. A sustainable strategy not relying on short term gratification. The world market drives the price and taxing level is the main thing under government control. Remember we have less than 2% of the earths proven oil reserves in the US.


Bad tax policy

Policy analysts, as opposed to policy makers, have long recommended a higher gasoline tax or a broader tax on carbon to encourage increased energy supplies of all kinds and energy conservation, while filling the U.S. Treasury instead of the treasuries of Venezuela strong man Hugo Chavez, Saudi royalty and other dictators.

The 18.4-cents-per-gallon gas tax was last raised during the Clinton presidency, Borenstein said, and has fallen sharply when adjusted for inflation.

"We're collecting more revenue through taxing work through income taxes, and less through taxing things like gasoline," Borenstein said. "So we are discouraging work and encouraging gasoline consumption, which is not good tax policy."
Read more: Spike in gas prices ignites election-year furor

Loren

 

[charleyfarmall]

There is another part to this. It's also an attempt to change the culture in the US to align it with europe. It's a back door approach to implementing Agenda 21 after the US congress refused to ratify it (Search UN - Agenda 21 or go to the UN's website).

Have you heard the radio ads from the Ad Council about "I think I'll walk to work today" talking about how much better it is to live in a community where you don't use a car. A place where you work and live in the same place.

These planned communities are starting to be implemented all over. The goal is to shift the population in closer to urban an suburban locations and depopulate the country side to cut fuel expenses and preserve natural resources ( including farm and forest land).

A lot of people like it. I don't but I'm a country boy and that's where I will live an die.

 

[Don87]

My understanding is that the policy is to make us pay the full cost, not an artificially low cost so that we don't waste and so that alternative development is encouraged. A sustainable strategy not relying on short term gratification. The world market drives the price and taxing level is the main thing under government control. Remember we have less than 2% of the earths proven oil reserves in the US.


Bad tax policy

Policy analysts, as opposed to policy makers, have long recommended a higher gasoline tax or a broader tax on carbon to encourage increased energy supplies of all kinds and energy conservation, while filling the U.S. Treasury instead of the treasuries of Venezuela strong man Hugo Chavez, Saudi royalty and other dictators.

The 18.4-cents-per-gallon gas tax was last raised during the Clinton presidency, Borenstein said, and has fallen sharply when adjusted for inflation.

"We're collecting more revenue through taxing work through income taxes, and less through taxing things like gasoline," Borenstein said. "So we are discouraging work and encouraging gasoline consumption, which is not good tax policy."
Read more: Spike in gas prices ignites election-year furor

Loren

Theres where the problems start. With a totally fictitious non-problem, turned into a problem by environmental activists and people wanting to 'make a buck' from carbon credits and such.

Not to mention the fact that our founding fathers envision a small government with limited powers. Our economy is fueled by the private sector, by creating a goods or service that is needed, then selling that product for a profit .

The government takes what we earn through taxation and produces nothing.

Heres an example on the tax increases coming our way that most aren't aware of:

Potential Federal Tax Increases Loom

The people have learned that they can vote themselves money, refer to Ben Franklin for the outcome.

P.S. Loren, you don't have to dig too deep to see the ramifications of the policies you are embracing........just look across the big pond to the east.

 

[Charolais]

Theres where the problems start. With a totally fictitious non-problem, turned into a problem by environmental activists and people wanting to 'make a buck' from carbon credits and such.

Not to mention the fact that our founding fathers envision a small government with limited powers. Our economy is fueled by the private sector, by creating a goods or service that is needed, then selling that product for a profit .

The government takes what we earn through taxation and produces nothing.

Heres an example on the tax increases coming our way that most aren't aware of:

Potential Federal Tax Increases Loom

The people have learned that they can vote themselves money, refer to Ben Franklin for the outcome.

P.S. Loren, you don't have to dig too deep to see the ramifications of the policies you are embracing........just look across the big pond to the east.

Since part of the fuel price problem is speculation do you think regulations that were removed should be put back in place? Do you think the president should put a price cap on fuel like was done in the 70's by Nixon?

 

[Don87]

]Since part of the fuel price problem is speculation [/B]do you think regulations that were removed should be put back in place? Do you think the president should put a price cap on fuel like was done in the 70's by Nixon?

I'm saying that the 'speculation' problem you are seeing right now is being caused by this administration. All ya gotta do is listen to what Energy Secretary Stephen Chu said:




Energy Secretary Chu Says Lower Gas Prices Are Not Obama's Goal - Investors.com

 

[Charolais]

I'm saying that the 'speculation' problem you are seeing right now is being caused by this administration. All ya gotta do is listen to what Energy Secretary Stephen Chu said:




Energy Secretary Chu Says Lower Gas Prices Are Not Obama's Goal - Investors.com

What was it caused by in 2007? This hasn't just started. This isn't our first ride to high fuel prices. I was paying 72 cent a gallon in late 1999 for off road diesel.

Just read the other day that China last year bought 2.5 million GM cars. That was up 8% from the prior year. Hey they ain't pushing carts anymore. You think that might have something to do with it too?

 

[5030]

I love this thread and all the whining.

People in this country are accustomed to low fuel prices. In Europe it's been much higher for a long time now.... Be thankful.

Maybe it's time to quit romancing those big Hemi engines, gas guzzling cars and even those 'tractors' you don't really need because you want to be 'one up' on your neighbor when, in fact, a snowshovel or a push mower would actually do just fine and maybe cause you to get off the couch and loose some weight.....

I see it going to 5 bucks a gallon for regular and possibly 5.25 for diesel. Imagine filling up that Hemi pickup, the one you impress your friends with, with the dual exhaust, big tires and lift kit.....that you don't need but you have to have because it's all about being 'macho'...for a hundred bucks or more, because it's going to happen and soon....

Our company paid over 10 million last year in diesel fuel costs to run 100 trucks but we offset that cost with a fuel surcharge on the materials we hauled, that surcharge being passed right back to our customers and those customers passing it on to you.

I have one of those 'big' pickup trucks too. Difference is, I use mine only when necessary to haul something, not to impress the next door neighbor or boost my testosterone level. My normal ride gets 30 mpg, a small car and it's 4wd. Go figure....

As a consumer you have little or no control over fuel prices other than to use less, in other words, be more efficient in your usage, something thats alien to most in this country......

Keep whining, I'm loving it.................

 

[Don87]

I'm only posting to inform people as to what is going on.........most don't have a clue what's in store for them.

I'm just a truck driver, trying to make a living. But that is becoming increasingly more difficult because this administration is bound and determined to oversee the downfall of our country.

Read Obama's book, listen to his words, watch his actions. Then you too will understand.

If you want to wrap your head around something really scary, look to Ruth Bader Gindsberg "I would not look to the U.S. Constitution, if I were drafting a constitution in the year 2012"


https://mikesright.wordpress.com/20...burg-wouldnt-use-u-s-constitution-as-a-model/

 

[Don87]

I love this thread and all the whining.

People in this country are accustomed to low fuel prices. In Europe it's been much higher for a long time now.... Be thankful.

Maybe it's time to quit romancing those big Hemi engines, gas guzzling cars and even those 'tractors' you don't really need because you want to be 'one up' on your neighbor when, in fact, a snowshovel or a push mower would actually do just fine and maybe cause you to get off the couch and loose some weight.....

I see it going to 5 bucks a gallon for regular and possibly 5.25 for diesel. Imagine filling up that Hemi pickup, the one you impress your friends with, with the dual exhaust, big tires and lift kit.....that you don't need but you have to have because it's all about being 'macho'...for a hundred bucks or more, because it's going to happen and soon....

Our company paid over 10 million last year in diesel fuel costs to run 100 trucks but we offset that cost with a fuel surcharge on the materials we hauled, that surcharge being passed right back to our customers and those customers passing it on to you.

I have one of those 'big' pickup trucks too. Difference is, I use mine only when necessary to haul something, not to impress the next door neighbor or boost my testosterone level. My normal ride gets 30 mpg, a small car and it's 4wd. Go figure....

As a consumer you have little or no control over fuel prices other than to use less, in other words, be more efficient in your usage, something thats alien to most in this country......

Keep whining, I'm loving it.................

Those that can't see the forest, for the trees, will have opinions such as you posted.