I have had 4 E250 and E350 vans. They are a bullet proof time tested workhorse. I was ready for a new van 2 weeks ago and did not want to wait for the new E series. I ended up with a 2012 Transit, it is MUCH smaller but I'm getting 25-26 mpg. So the tradeoff was worth it to me. Hopefully it will treat me as well as my Es did.
Goodbye Econoline
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Smaller in the back? That's not good news at all...
He is talking about the Transit Connect, not the new Transit Van. The Transit Van is the size of a Sprinter or NV. The Transit Connect is about the size of a mid size SUV like a Jeep Cherokee.
Go to Fords site and take a look at the lineup. Lots of good info.
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Didn't realize he meant the Connect, I've seen them around. Worthless for my requirements.
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Trust me- I was not talking about my 35,000 miles- I'm talking about the thousands of 150's that have been sold with the EcoBoost. And granted, we are talking about ACCUMULATED miles as opposed to mileage say that has been accumulated by individual vehicles over say five years, but do you think Ford would be sticking it in PI duty if they did not have a lot of back up to support that decision. I would also say that turbocharger technology has had a lot of time to improve since the fifties.
Then again, if my memory serves me right, I do believe you are not exactly a fan of the Blue Oval correct?
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I'm not a fan of any manufacturer that changes drivetrains more often than headlights due to poor designs, failures and recalls...Red Horse said:Then again, if my memory serves me right, I do believe you are not exactly a fan of the Blue Oval correct?
As I said before, this engine will be great IF it passes the test of time but it's still FAR from proven...
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I see-good reason- you sound like a very experienced guy that could educate a lot us- please elaborate-but please leave out the 6.0. While I know some people who had no issues, there were enough who had their fair share.
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I had a 7.3l IDI diesel that failed with cylinder wall cavitation and started burning coolant, had numerous 5.4l tritons spit out plugs, two V10 tritons with ceased plugs, a couple of Mustang 3.8's dropping valves and cracked pistons, three Ford Ranger 2.3's lose a timing belt destroying the head, a 2.0l Focus that went through ignition parts and fuel pumps like candy...Red Horse said:
I could go on between my vehicles, family and friends' vehicles I fix and my companies fleet but you get the point.
On the flip side, I've owned/repaired many Chrysler/GM vehicles and rarely have seen these problems which are clearly design failures...
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Yep my brother saw on on the road in Arizona all covered up near the Ford testing grounds.
Looks like Ford is waking up to the Sprinter size vans.
I've had the traditional Ford vans and now I own a Sprinter. No comparison. For one the room, I love the fact that I can stand up straight in the van without bending over. The volume of things I can haul is unheard of.
Now for the diesel part. I overloaded the van by 30% and it climbed the the Rockies without missing a beat.
I got rid of a dually Duramax 1 ton for this sprinter and it was one of the best decisions I ever made.
With all the seats I can haul around a gaggle of kids to a field trip, then pull the seats out and it doubles a s pick up - only better. Better because it's enclosed whereas the pickup was open.
Put one seat back in and not it's a road trip van. Camping gear, bikes, etc. Sleep inside it of use the tent.
The ride, it rides like a car. Mileage, bets I ever got was 24mpg. Average over 20 all day long with the Dually I never passed 12mpg.
There are way too many reason this Ford will be a HUGE hit. I'll be first in line for one. Yes I love the Sprinter, but they screwed the pooch by not having enough qualified Sprinter shops to service them.
I've got 75K trouble free miles and as I get up in miles I'm assuming trips to a dealer and for me that 75 miles away.
Looks like Ford is waking up to the Sprinter size vans.
I've had the traditional Ford vans and now I own a Sprinter. No comparison. For one the room, I love the fact that I can stand up straight in the van without bending over. The volume of things I can haul is unheard of.
Now for the diesel part. I overloaded the van by 30% and it climbed the the Rockies without missing a beat.
I got rid of a dually Duramax 1 ton for this sprinter and it was one of the best decisions I ever made.
With all the seats I can haul around a gaggle of kids to a field trip, then pull the seats out and it doubles a s pick up - only better. Better because it's enclosed whereas the pickup was open.
Put one seat back in and not it's a road trip van. Camping gear, bikes, etc. Sleep inside it of use the tent.
The ride, it rides like a car. Mileage, bets I ever got was 24mpg. Average over 20 all day long with the Dually I never passed 12mpg.
There are way too many reason this Ford will be a HUGE hit. I'll be first in line for one. Yes I love the Sprinter, but they screwed the pooch by not having enough qualified Sprinter shops to service them.
I've got 75K trouble free miles and as I get up in miles I'm assuming trips to a dealer and for me that 75 miles away.
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I will take it for what its worth. I have owned about 20 Fords with no major issues. Biggest problem was a failed fuel gauge.
1 Dodge, 2 trannys in 68,000 miles, AC compressor, Power steering pump, ect.
4 GM's, 2 good, 2 horrible. Bad injectors, glow plugs, transfer case, blown motor at 30,000 miles.
Whats your point. I find it hard to believe you had noting but problems with all the Ford you have but no other brands.
Chris