Seafoam

[The Haymaker]

agree 100%.. this is a 5.3 and only 13/14 mpg.. and now.. no 4wd...


soundguy

Consistent, doesn't matter if I flog it or run cruise. Last time I spoke to them they tried to blame the 31" tires I put on it. BS, considering Z71 package comes with those tires, same gearing, same programming.

 

[Soundguy]

at this point i'd be happy with the bad milage if the 4wd would just start working.

as for the milage? my ford 350 and 450 DRW with 7.3 diesels both get that much highway the yukon should be able to spank them on fuel economy..

 

[The Haymaker]

at this point i'd be happy with the bad milage if the 4wd would just start working.

as for the milage? my ford 350 and 450 DRW with 7.3 diesels both get that much highway the yukon should be able to spank them on fuel economy..

Is it a manual or electronic? Probably either a servo or a sensor.

 

[Soundguy]

electric.. the lil buttons on the dash... makes me miss my dodge ram with shifter ont he floor for 4wd...

 

[Monster5601]

but overall.. I'm unsatisified with them as a company and their product..soundguy

GM and all the other manufactures only develop the vehicle design and the powertrain, everything else comes from suppliers. Suppliers are under constant pressure to lower parts cost and for the life of me, I can't understand this mentality.

Parts that are supplied by a supplier and fail undermine customer loyalty. Why these manufactures allow bean counters instead of the engineers to make parts decisions is a mystery. In my opinion, more profit would be realized from a loyal customer base.

Of all the vehicles I've owned and in recent memory I've never had a powertrain problem. I've had window regulators fail (2001 Buick), front wheel bearing at 600 miles (2006 HHR), alternators, sensors, wiring, trim, and electronics, (2003 Yukon XL, 2004 Yukon XL), power steering pump (1989 Taurus), transmission failure (1995 Windstar). Well, I could go on but.

It isn't any single manufacture, it is all of them including the Asians, just look at the recalls Toyota and Honda have been issuing over the past few years. Everyone was due to a supplier part.

 

[The Haymaker]

electric.. the lil buttons on the dash... makes me miss my dodge ram with shifter ont he floor for 4wd...

My dad had the unit in the dash go bad. It resulted, in conjunction with his slowing reflexes, with having to replace a transfer case when it finally engaged as he was spinning.

 

[The Haymaker]

GM and all the other manufactures only develop the vehicle design and the powertrain, everything else comes from suppliers. Suppliers are under constant pressure to lower parts cost and for the life of me, I can't understand this mentality.

Parts that are supplied by a supplier and fail undermine customer loyalty. Why these manufactures allow bean counters instead of the engineers to make parts decisions is a mystery. In my opinion, more profit would be realized from a loyal customer base.

Of all the vehicles I've owned and in recent memory I've never had a powertrain problem. I've had window regulators fail (2001 Buick), front wheel bearing at 600 miles (2006 HHR), alternators, sensors, wiring, trim, and electronics, (2003 Yukon XL, 2004 Yukon XL), power steering pump (1989 Taurus), transmission failure (1995 Windstar). Well, I could go on but.

It isn't any single manufacture, it is all of them including the Asians, just look at the recalls Toyota and Honda have been issuing over the past few years. Everyone was due to a supplier part.

To me, it has nothing to do with the parts supplier. It all falls on the supplier of the vehicle, that is who I gave my money too. When you are replacing thousands of wheel bearings, yet tell me to eat the cost of your deficiency, you will no longer see my money.

A GM engineer friend of mine worded it this way. "We saved a few sense per unit by going with those bearings, and we're still paying for it."

 

[CaptJCHill]

It is the continuing saga of the continuing decline of American made products.Even in commercial aviation where there is a paper trail on every component,you see this problem.Over regulation,environmental concerns,crony ism etc all contribute to some degree.The biggest problem is a junior exec trying to make a name and advance in the ranks.Wait till you see aircraft engines produced/overhauled in Mexico with Chinese parts but they meet " spec" Any way, I have used seafoam in a MF240 with a3cyl Perkins to clean the injectors/pump .It took 2 applications,but it was well worth the cost.Black smoke gone for good.

John

 

[Soundguy]

Why these manufactures allow bean counters instead of the engineers to make parts decisions is a mystery.

I'm an engineer and I see it day in and day out.

value engineering directed by a guy with a degree in business management or finance making design calls.. not the guy with the set of calipers or the slide rule..

 

[Jstpssng]

I'm the last guy in the world that would fall for gimmicks, after all, I've worked as a development engineer in automotive powertrain (GM premium V8s and diesel group) up till I retired out several years ago. I still work in automotive but now with a supplier in body electronics. While I'm thinking of it, all those who create and propagate those automotive conspiracies, keep them coming cause we always need material to laugh about at the water cooler.

I never paid much attention to Seafoam until recently, in fact last summer. I read here what you folks thought of it and I was tired of spending so much time trying to start my two cycle engines, I gave Seafoam a try. Guess what, it worked, even after extended off times, the weed whacker, chain saws, they all start after two or three pulls. I add two ounces of Seafoam to my one gallon gas/oil mix.

My Tahoe (2003) developed a lifter tick at 130K miles when first started, after two oil changes using a high detergent oil, the tick remained. On the next oil change I added 9 ounces of Seafoam to the oil and after 5K miles, the tick went away. I am now at 185K miles and still no tick.

Now I am a fan of Seafoam, I don't care what ingredients in Seafoam make it do what it does, I am going to continue to buy and use Seafoam.

As far a diesel fuel treatments here is what I've learned by asking. My tractor dealer (a Kubota dealer since the early 70's) said not to add any treatments, it is not needed. The fuel terminals add what is needed for our area. I have three diesel utilities I use on my property and all of them run just fine. The B3030 and the RTV900 are used thought the winter and start and run just fine. All three are Tier 4 diesels.

I called a friend I worked with at powertrain and asked him about additives for the latest versions of GM's diesels. He consulted with one of the staff chemists and told me the same thing my tractor dealer told me.

There you have it, like it or not, my experiences and qualified opinions.

I've done the same thing in old engines using transmission fluid though.Not only did it stop the ticking, but also the blue smoke pouring out from time to time. These were both junkers that had nothing to lose though.