gooseneck dump questions

CaseRobert · Mar 13, 2012

I am looking to get a gooseneck dump, 18' or so, with removable sides. that way its easier to haul odd size loads or side load if i need to. does anyone here have any experience with removable slides on any type of dump trailer?
also i would prefer 2 10,000 lb axles, dual or single wheel not sure yet. i might may go with 2 8,000 lb axles, it all depends on what i can find used close to Michigan. it seems all the bigger gooseneck dumps are way down south
thanks for any suggestions or help.

Diamondpilot · Mar 13, 2012

Personally I would not want duals. I would rather have tri 6K or 7K axles. I had a GN, not a dump, with tandem 12K duals and I hated them for most service items.

Chris

CaseRobert · Mar 14, 2012

the only downside to 3 axles is on such a short trailer there will be a lot of tire scrub. what didn't you like about duals? i really don't have any experience with them at all. i could try and find a trailer with the 10,000 lb axles and single tires, they are out there but are rare.

Diamondpilot · Mar 14, 2012

CaseRobert said:
the only downside to 3 axles is on such a short trailer there will be a lot of tire scrub. what didn't you like about duals? i really don't have any experience with them at all. i could try and find a trailer with the 10,000 lb axles and single tires, they are out there but are rare.

I just did not like the height because of Duals have to be tucked under the trailer where with singles you can stick them outside the trailer and still get a decent width.

Also for servicing them you are under the trailer for items like brakes and bearings for the inside wheels. Also, flats are not fun.

I have had many tri axle trailers and never really seen any more wheel scrub than dual axle. Its just that the center wheel acts as a pivot and if the front wheel tucks in the rear wheel will tuck out.

These are just my opinions, so take it for what its worth. I would also never own another GN. I hated giving up my bed. I have owned 15 or more trailers in my life, some GN but most BP, the larges has 3 7,000# axles and never had any issues.

Buying used you are at the mercy of the market though.

Chris

QRTRHRS · Mar 14, 2012

There may be exceptions but mostly, the larger dumps have removeable sides where as the smaller ones reliy on fixed sides for rigidity.

As Diamondpilot said, the duallies are high. Not for the faint of heart should you wish to move a piece of equipment.

I had a 16' Bri-Mar dually with two piece sides about 36" high. I had them off once. Very unwieldy for sure.

The trouble with trailers is that one size does not do all.

powerstroke444e · Mar 15, 2012

I use a 3axle 16 dump and I have 2 axle 30 dump. I would never buy a 3 axle trailer they just don't turn worth a hoot and seem real easy to bend an axle. I like larger axles with super singles or 17.5 or 19.5 tires, but most are not mass produced. The gooseneck dump I am able to get 8 ton of material.
I like gooseneck trailers but lowprofile dumps are nice to use with any truck you have.

CaseRobert · Mar 15, 2012

i guess i should explain what my plans are, that might help lol. i need a gooseneck dump to mount a small knuckle boom crane to, and i would like it to be a deck-over with removable sides so i have the option to side load and be able to carry a vehicle on it. i do realize that the ramp angles will be to steep for a car. its going to be as multi purpose as possible, realizing that it wont be great at any one thing.

Rustyiron · Mar 15, 2012

With removable sides for side loading, you'll be into a "deck over" trlr. so the single wheel vs dual becomes a non issue for height reasons. Depending on what loose materials that you usually be hauling, I'd go with the 10k oil bath duals. Trying to make the trailer so versatile that it can do a little of everything, makes it do nothing well. Do you really need a dump? I've seen a lot of guys think that they now have a "dump truck" only to find out how small of a pile a few tons of gravel or soil is. Dump trlrs are great for mulch, trash, brush and firewood, but if you have plans on picking up anything heavy on a regular basis, hire a real truck. Your trlr is going to get heavy fast with the crane and the dump hoist. I think you'll be in the neighborhood of 9/10K empty, see where I'm going?