Thinking about getting into haying for my own use and for small $$$

   / Thinking about getting into haying for my own use and for small $$$ #81  
My friend,

Pictures... Must see pictures of shiny new hay equipment sir! :thumbsup:

I love my land & I love VA. But before I bought it my goal was to own 15-50 acres... But now that I have almost 51 acres, I catch myself lusting ofter 500 acres, or TX style 1,500 acres or even more! I could move to TX I think... If I was ever to leave VA it would only be for West VA or TX...

Be well my friend,
David

My Grandma Hall lived in West Virginia,when she was living we visited regular, I remember having to take the old army jeep up into the hills and then fetch water from the water well. It was really nice there,it has been 20yrs or better since we been.....
 
   / Thinking about getting into haying for my own use and for small $$$ #82  
40 -50 years ago, I recall, the best thing about cutting the hay, was all the rabbits that the mower hit, and the rabbit dinner that followed. Most only lost a leg, so had a 22 on the tractor, so only had 3 legged chicken that night.

Some folks think I'm crazy, and so what if they're right. :confused2: But, I enjoy making hay. Your post reminded me of one of the fun parts. I carry a Ruger Single Six .22 revolver while I'm cutting hay. I get a kick out of shooting the wood rats. :laughing:
 
   / Thinking about getting into haying for my own use and for small $$$ #83  
Well I just bit the bullet and bought new baler,cutter and rake,and just being able to do what and when I wont to do it,is worth the money. It will be here Friday,I am going to have to build a bigger barn:D

Dang it, foreman is already smarter than most of us....BOUGHT NEW! Congrats and yes, now you have a barn project on the compass:thumbsup:
 
   / Thinking about getting into haying for my own use and for small $$$ #84  
I don't do hay nor do I have horses so could someone explain to me what makes for the good quality "horse hay" everyone talks about? Are there also other classifications of hay based on quality?

MarkV
 
   / Thinking about getting into haying for my own use and for small $$$ #85  
I have always had problems in getting someone to come bale my 30ac,meadow.When they do show up,well I will just say it usually gets rained on. Last year did get someone who done a really good job cut one day baled it the next but charged me a 2 bale an acre minimum,so I made 31 and got charged for 60 at $27 a bale. I also have small patches here and there on the place and a long power-line R.O.W,that could never get done. I have also added another 40 acre meadow at my lease place(in-laws:D),guess around 90acres total now. Well I just bit the bullet and bought new baler,cutter and rake,and just being able to do what and when I wont to do it,is worth the money. The only problem I am having is word gets out and I have alot of folks already wonting me to do there hay but I have to let them down easy,im just doing my own. It will be here Friday,I am going to have to build a bigger barn:D

Last year, a neighbor couldn't get anyone to cut his hay. After 4 years of drought, there just wasn't much to cut and the guy that had been doing it didn't want to move his equipment for a few rolls. It's about 35 acres and it joins my property, so I told him I would do it. It was more of a favor to him than a benefit to me. My price was $10/acre to cut plus $15/per roll. (4x5) Fast forward to this spring. We've had a lot of rain and the grass is already growing. Looks like there will be plenty of hay, at least for the first cutting or two. He came over last weekend and wanted to re-negotiate the price. I told him my price hadn't changed. If he wanted me to do it, same price. If not, he could get someone else. (good luck with that) He said, "Oh no. You go ahead." :mad: I have over $100,000 invested in my two bigger tractors and the hay equipment. (and the hay equipment was all bought used) I don't work it for nothing.
BTW: This guy is a friend. Known him all my life. Went to school with him.
NOTE: People WILL try to take advantage of you.
 
   / Thinking about getting into haying for my own use and for small $$$ #86  
I don't do hay nor do I have horses so could someone explain to me what makes for the good quality "horse hay" everyone talks about? Are there also other classifications of hay based on quality?

MarkV

There's a guy that lives about 10 miles from me who will bale anything, and advertise it as "horse" hay. (and I mean anything: road ditch grass, old fields, etc) :rolleyes:

Here's my opinion: (BTW, my opinion plus 50 cents might get you a half cup of coffee in some places) :D
I have my soil tested. I lime and fertilize according to soil test results. Weeds are kept to a minimum.(herbicide) Grass is cut every 30-45 days. Then, it has to be fully cured so that no mold grows. (mold is toxic to horses, but doesn't hurt cattle)
Bottom line: it cost a BUNCH of $$$ to make "horse" hay.
I sell most of my hay to horse owners. Frankly, at $50/roll, my price is too high for a lot of the cattle owners.
 
   / Thinking about getting into haying for my own use and for small $$$ #87  
I have always had problems in getting someone to come bale my 30ac,meadow.When they do show up,well I will just say it usually gets rained on. Last year did get someone who done a really good job cut one day baled it the next but charged me a 2 bale an acre minimum,so I made 31 and got charged for 60 at $27 a bale. I also have small patches here and there on the place and a long power-line R.O.W,that could never get done. I have also added another 40 acre meadow at my lease place(in-laws:D),guess around 90acres total now. Well I just bit the bullet and bought new baler,cutter and rake,and just being able to do what and when I wont to do it,is worth the money. The only problem I am having is word gets out and I have alot of folks already wonting me to do there hay but I have to let them down easy,im just doing my own. It will be here Friday,I am going to have to build a bigger barn:D

We've been talking about making hay that never gets wet. It's also important to store your baler in a building so it never gets wet. A round baler has all kinds of sharp edged nooks and crannies that get seed and grass pieces hung up in them. The crap needs to be removed, especially at the end of the season so the mice will look elsewhere for a home.
It is very tempting to raise the discharge, open all the doors and use a power washer or hose. Not a good idea.
I find it much better for the equipment and actually easier, to open everything up, shut down the tractor, ( be sure to use the safety blocks on the lift cyclinders ) and pull or cut as much as possible of the wound up hay on the shaft ends and under the belt tension rollers. Then I take a piece of 1/2 inch metal conduit that I bent a curve on one end. To this I have taped an air hose with a blast nozzle on the end. I can blow all the seeds and dust off the baler without getting on a ladder and without getting myself covered
with the seeds and dirt. ( Yet another use for duct tape :) ) Then I lube the chains, the many many zerks, and check everything else. Put it in the barn, add a few mothballs to the twine box to keep the mice away and I'm ready to roll next season when time is critical.
 
   / Thinking about getting into haying for my own use and for small $$$ #88  
We've been talking about making hay that never gets wet. It's also important to store your baler in a building so it never gets wet. A round baler has all kinds of sharp edged nooks and crannies that get seed and grass pieces hung up in them. The crap needs to be removed, especially at the end of the season so the mice will look elsewhere for a home.
It is very tempting to raise the discharge, open all the doors and use a power washer or hose. Not a good idea.
I find it much better for the equipment and actually easier, to open everything up, shut down the tractor, ( be sure to use the safety blocks on the lift cyclinders ) and pull or cut as much as possible of the wound up hay on the shaft ends and under the belt tension rollers. Then I take a piece of 1/2 inch metal conduit that I bent a curve on one end. To this I have taped an air hose with a blast nozzle on the end. I can blow all the seeds and dust off the baler without getting on a ladder and without getting myself covered
with the seeds and dirt. ( Yet another use for duct tape :) ) Then I lube the chains, the many many zerks, and check everything else. Put it in the barn, add a few mothballs to the twine box to keep the mice away and I'm ready to roll next season when time is critical.

Yeah,I have two barn a 20x40 and a 20x20 well lets just say,they are full of equipment,tractors,4wheeler,prowler,truck and I usally store square bales in part of one and then a cple pallets of feed but I will see what I can do about the storage of the shredder and sprayer later cause it will be okay for the to sleep outside,I just like everything to be inside but I guess im just weird that way. I am currently building a chicken coop,well im trying to anyways,I never claimed to be good with wood,I use to be a welder(little easier to fill a gap:D).
I hope I made the right choices,I got the Vermeer Rebel 5410 baler loaded with net wrap,a Vermeer 8 wheel rake and a Vicon 8ft cutter,may look at getting a tedder later on used.
 
   / Thinking about getting into haying for my own use and for small $$$ #89  
Yeah,I have two barn a 20x40 and a 20x20 well lets just say,they are full of equipment,tractors,4wheeler,prowler,truck and I usally store square bales in part of one and then a cple pallets of feed but I will see what I can do about the storage of the shredder and sprayer later cause it will be okay for the to sleep outside,I just like everything to be inside but I guess im just weird that way. I am currently building a chicken coop,well im trying to anyways,I never claimed to be good with wood,I use to be a welder(little easier to fill a gap:D).
I hope I made the right choices,I got the Vermeer Rebel 5410 baler loaded with net wrap,a Vermeer 8 wheel rake and a Vicon 8ft cutter,may look at getting a tedder later on used.

Don't expect to make tight perfectly shaped rolls, like the ones in the pretty advertisements, for a while. It takes some practice. If your baling on any hills
think about how you dump the roll. They like to roll down hills while they are tight. If you can get your windrows of raked hay adjusted so you can discharge them near each other in groups it saves a lot of time when picking up to take to the barn.
Have fun, keep your sugar level up, and drink lots of water.
How long before baling starts in E Texas?
 
   / Thinking about getting into haying for my own use and for small $$$ #90  
I don't do hay nor do I have horses so could someone explain to me what makes for the good quality "horse hay" everyone talks about? Are there also other classifications of hay based on quality?

MarkV

Having a horse is like having a new baby. Everyone and their uncle wants to convince you that you are totally irresponsible if you don't provide the absolute best of everything.

Horse hay needs two things...

1) Low mold and low dust. Dust and mold are especially critical if you stable the horses or if you feed them in an enclosed area. I feed mine in the open, an the wind always blows in Idaho. Dust is not as much of a concern for me.

2) Low nutrient. This is why so many horse owners prefer grass hay to alfalfa. Alfalfa has a lot of energy and a lot of protein. Most horses are pasture ornaments. They really don't burn a lot of calories. If you have a performance horse that you are riding hot and heavy every day the game changes.
 

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