BX deck installation for dummies

   / BX deck installation for dummies #31  
With my dolly, mine comes off in less than 2 minutes. Two weeks ago, I put it on in about three and a half minutes and I was not in a hurry. I have used all the other methods listed in the thread and none works as well as a dolly. The little furniture dolly wheels are not as maneuverable and require more effort. Using the FEL is ten times as much work, unless you leave the FEL on all the time, which greatly limits maneuverability when mowing in close quarters around buildings, planters, etc. I'm sure that others are satisfied with the methods they've chosen, and I'm not saying that's wrong for them. Those other methods are better than rotating the anti-scalp wheels, but my own experience is that nothing comes close to a low profile dolly. Here are some pics:

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...d1270970765-bota-cave-dolly-mmm-suspended.jpg

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...ing/161319d1270970891-bota-cave-mmm-dolly.jpg

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...0984-mmm-3-wheel-dolly-casters-picture-10.pdf

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...0984-mmm-3-wheel-dolly-casters-picture-17.pdf
 
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   / BX deck installation for dummies #32  
I mounted mine for the first time and it took me about 30 minutes. about 5 minutes just to get it under then another 10 for the hangers. The biggest mistake I learned doing thisthe first time was ....remove the stupid access plate on the bro tek skid plate before installing !! after that came off the drive shaft installed in about 2 minutes. Now the GCK60-23BX grass catcher that is a whole different story that thing took my over 2 hours as one hole just wouldnt line up. Not to mention I cant figure out how to hold it in place while I install the pins. I am guessing that its a 2 person job but I do not have the operators manual so maybe I am missing a step somewhere
 
   / BX deck installation for dummies #33  
I mounted mine for the first time and it took me about 30 minutes. about 5 minutes just to get it under then another 10 for the hangers. The biggest mistake I learned doing thisthe first time was ....remove the stupid access plate on the bro tek skid plate before installing !! after that came off the drive shaft installed in about 2 minutes. Now the GCK60-23BX grass catcher that is a whole different story that thing took my over 2 hours as one hole just wouldnt line up. Not to mention I cant figure out how to hold it in place while I install the pins. I am guessing that its a 2 person job but I do not have the operators manual so maybe I am missing a step somewhere

I got the catcher/blower/bagger that was available in the year 2000 with my BX2200. That model had the top link permenantly attached, welded in place and unable to pivot. There also was no way to adjust the length. The purpose of this was so that it was impossible for the unit to lower to the ground while fully attached to the 3ph. The diameter of the hole in the end of that arm and the holes in the 3ph were exactly the same. The darned thing had to be aligned to within a 64th of an inch to get the pin through all the holes. There was no play or slack at all the the weight of the thing created pressure in the hydraulic system. I had to get everything as closely aligned as possible, then hammer the pin in place with a sledge hammer. Taking the thing off was worse, because you never knew the right place to stop the 3ph pressure release valve. I had to take a smaller diameter pin of sufficient length and a sledge to drive the pin out backwards. Usually the weight of the unit on the 3ph put so much pressure on the connection that when the regular pin came out, the opposing holes took a big bite on the smaller pin. I then had to crank up, finess the 3ph up and down while trying to jerk the smaller pin out of the holes.

While the MMM is a snap for me to put on and take off, the bagger was just the opposite. I sold it to the legendary TBN member Junkman for half price. I have heard that some later models no longer have that nonadjustable, fused top link. A good design would be to just have a regular top link so you can attach everything while it's on the ground and no hydro pressure, then some other way to lock the 3ph. So, keyman, you are not alone in this. If I still had mine, I'd saw off that fused top link, put a regular Cat. 1 attachment point for a regular top link and use it that way.

Take heart though, my first few times with the MMM were well over a half hour. The dolly, lots of lube, and a refined technique solved the problem. Canter the deck so that you have as much shoulder and head room as possible on the left side. Try to get your head and left shoulder under the tractor. Cock the lock collar back. Use gentle finesse, not force. Rotate the device back and forth 2 to 4 degrees while at the same time rocking it back and forth the slightest bit in every possible direction. If it isn't sliding on, be even gentler, not more forceful. Whenever the stud is perfectly perpendicular to the face of the coupler, and all the splines are perfectly aligned with the grooves, it will slip right on. Eventually you'll get the feel for it. Again: finesse-not force. A dolly means not having to rotate anti-scalp wheels; it also makes aligning everything very easy. A strip on the front edge lifts the chassis of the deck. Holes beneath the blade bolts prevent pressure on those bolts, which would prevent you from being able to rotate the locking connector to the PTO shaft. See links to my pics above.

Good luck!
 
   / BX deck installation for dummies #34  
I have the newer version on the catcher that hooks onto where the BH unit was on my BX24. I need to find a hydraulic cylinder for the top link so I can just hit the lever and pull it on. That would make lift much easier
 
   / BX deck installation for dummies #35  
I have a dolly, too, but not fancy. Just a 2x4 (or about - I may have cut it to fit) piece of 3/4 ply with four casters. The problem is, with my slightly lower BX1500, the mower doesn't fit comfortably under the tractor when it's on the dolly.

So, I drive the tractor up on on two 2x4s (one for the front, one for the rear), which raises it 1.5 inches, which is more than enough. That also gives my arms a little more room to get in around the mower and attach the PTO shaft. I agree that's the annoying part; lube, swear, and it'll go, though.

Don't ask me how I know, but remember to remove the dolly before driving away.
 
   / BX deck installation for dummies #36  
Mounting the deck should not be a problem, If you don稚 have a FEL mounted when you're looking to hang the deck then drive the front wheels up on blocks to get the deck under the BX. I always leave the FEL mounted till I'm done hanging the deck then I remove it.
I never turn the anti scalp wheels on the deck, I just hook on the deck w/a tie down or the chain I leave w/the machine (on the foot well) and pull the deck under the BX. I have a cement pad around the shop; I hear some of you have to deal w/a gravel area. I'd get a couple sheet of plywood to leave on the ground in an area were I kept the BX stuff. Once you've mounted and removed the deck a couple of times you'll get the hang of it.
The grass catcher is a ball buster, every thing ells that mounts to the 3 point hitch goes on no problem but removing the 3 point hitch and all that the factory has you doing is
poor design. I've modified my catcher this year. I'm always having to switch implements so the catcher was a pain. The photos show my modification. The pipe I used is a 1/2" gas pipe filled w/a 1/2" bar stock. Finding a piece of 5/8" solid stock wasn稚 happening so I used what was readily available to me. I simply pounded the solid bar stock into the gas pipe on each end about 12". Be sure the center top pin is lined up before you go welding anything up. I lined everything up then tack welded it before removing it and bench welding it all. All I do now is pick each end of the catcher up and lower it into the hitch coupling then role it forward and insert the top center pin. Hope this helps someone out.
 

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   / BX deck installation for dummies #37  
I know this is an old thread but I am new owner and subscriber to TractorByNet so please forgive. I have no trouble getting my mmm off but the mid arms do not lower with the lever when there is no weight on them. They go up fine but cause me to have to lift the mmm a considerable distance to attach. They do go UP and DOWN fine with the mmm attached. How might I fix this? Also, there are many mentions of rotating the anti-scalp wheels on the deck but I have yet to be able to do this as well. I pull mightily on the rings on the pins but nothing gives enough to rotate the wheels. I'm sure the answer is simple but I have scoured the web for the way that type of pin should work and mine just don't seem to.
 
   / BX deck installation for dummies #38  
Not sure on 2350 but on 2200 (after raising the deck up) you remove the ring from the pin, pull the pin, the wheels will drop unless you catch them, rotate the wheel shaft and there will be another hole that you put the pin through in the new direction. I replace the rings with simpler pins since it was pain removing the rings. Hope things haven't changed much since 2200. I usually use the FEL to make removing the deck even easier by lifting the front end of the mower up, doesn't catch on much then.
 
   / BX deck installation for dummies #39  
What Dennis said on swiveling the wheels. :thumbsup:

On the arms not dropping - do you have the 3pt adjusted in tightly enough that without the MMM weight they stay up? I'm guessing you have the adjustment knob on yours like other BX's, and could back off on it.

You can always set it back to your current setting if you have it there for a slower drop of the 3pt that you may prefer.
 
   / BX deck installation for dummies #40  
To lower the mower lift arms, just reach back and push down on the 3 point lift arms while you move the lever to the down position.
 

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