Hesston 530 jamming problems...ideas?

[MotorSeven]

This is my 3rd season with the Hesston. Bought it used, replaced a bunch of teeth, then last year the lower shaft that holds the tooth bars grenaded($600 in parts). Rolled 200ish bales after that without a hitch. I did a preseason tune up, and found two belts(both on the outside) that needed re-lacing and did that. I know it does not like green hay, and we did push it a bit today with weather moving in tonight, but it was 85% dry which is usually not a big problem for it.

But today I could not roll two bales without having to clean out a birds nest of hay jam up on one of the outside belts/rollers. It jammed in the same spot every time and required a manual clean out between each bale. I also had to dump 6 or 7 incomplete bales that just stopped turning.

So my thoughts are:
1. the hay was green enough to cause the problem?
2. cutting off and re-lacing changed something....belt now too short?
4. it's anew unrelated problem an I have no clue
3. it's time to ditch the relic and bite the bullet on a new/newer baler?

So,,,,any suggestions?

Pic's of the nest:

 

[blueriver]

This is my 3rd season with the Hesston. Bought it used, replaced a bunch of teeth, then last year the lower shaft that holds the tooth bars grenaded($600 in parts). Rolled 200ish bales after that without a hitch. I did a preseason tune up, and found two belts(both on the outside) that needed re-lacing and did that. I know it does not like green hay, and we did push it a bit today with weather moving in tonight, but it was 85% dry which is usually not a big problem for it.

But today I could not roll two bales without having to clean out a birds nest of hay jam up on one of the outside belts/rollers. It jammed in the same spot every time and required a manual clean out between each bale. I also had to dump 6 or 7 incomplete bales that just stopped turning.

So my thoughts are:
1. the hay was green enough to cause the problem?
2. cutting off and re-lacing changed something....belt now too short?
4. it's anew unrelated problem an I have no clue
3. it's time to ditch the relic and bite the bullet on a new/newer baler?

So,,,,any suggestions?

Pic's of the nest:

Well I have a cousin baler to yours the Case IH 8430 (4x4 bales) and it jams when the hay is a little tough ... I get a small roll going and then the feeder jams and I get the so called birds nest ... sometimes it will even wrap around the rollers.

I'm betting thats the only cause. I redid all the lace's last year so all my belts would be the same length ... I have repaired them for a few years and finally decided to make them all the same length. It really helped for the bales to be uniform.

My baler does best in 16-18% moisture and feed the little devil like a starving child ... the more hay in the windrow and the more going into the baler the better the bales. Sometimes I wonder how it can take on so much .. I guess it doesn't know its a little guy!!!!!

 

[MotorSeven]

Thanks Blue....the number one suspect(in my mind) is green hay. We rolled really dry hay last year....3 days dry in hot sun and had no problems. Your right occasionally a pick-up feed jam, but that I understand. I don't think belt length is an issue since when I could roll a bale it was pretty even.

But I'm leery of cutting a field now, drying it than not being able to pick it up. So I am going to did around a little more. My neighbor has the exact same baler, so after church I am going to go over and have a palaver with him.