Synchro or Hydraulic Shuttle?

[sqdqo]

If you had a choice between synchro shuttle or hydraulic shuttle which would you choose and why? I don't know the differences.

 

[Notforhire]

More info please.
What model tractor, intended use, cost difference?

 

[Bluegill2]

Gear drive. Because I like em mo better! :thumbsup:

 

[TripleR]

We traded our Case CX80 with 12/12 Synchronized Shuttle Shift in for a Kubota M8540 with 12/12 Hydraulic Shuttle Shift. I will always go with the Hydraulic Shuttle over the Synchronized Shuttle due to increased ease of use.

Unlike the Synchro, on the Hydro unit, you don't have to depress the foot clutch to change directions, the clutch pack is automatically activated by the hand operated shift lever. I don't even use the foot clutch much any more.

 

[gwdixon]

We traded our Case CX80 with 12/12 Synchronized Shuttle Shift in for a Kubota M8540 with 12/12 Hydraulic Shuttle Shift. I will always go with the Hydraulic Shuttle over the Synchronized Shuttle due to increased ease of use.

Unlike the Synchro, on the Hydro unit, you don't have to depress the foot clutch to change directions, the clutch pack is automatically activated by the hand operated shift lever. I don't even use the foot clutch much any more.

^ +1

I've had both and prefer the Hydraulic. Clutch life should be dramatically improved especially if you use a loader much.

 

[E/S]

We traded our Case CX80 with 12/12 Synchronized Shuttle Shift in for a Kubota M8540 with 12/12 Hydraulic Shuttle Shift. I will always go with the Hydraulic Shuttle over the Synchronized Shuttle due to increased ease of use.

Unlike the Synchro, on the Hydro unit, you don't have to depress the foot clutch to change directions, the clutch pack is automatically activated by the hand operated shift lever. I don't even use the foot clutch much any more.

Same here, I went from gears to hydro and really like it.

E/S

 

[Bluegill2]

The hydro shuttle on our old 3750 does work pretty slick. :thumbsup:

 

[Notforhire]

The hydro shuttle on our old 3750 does work pretty slick. :thumbsup:

I just ordered a new L3240 w/GST. I have had syncro shuttles, regular gear, and a hydro, but never a GST. I have played around with them, but never actually worked with one.
If you are digging into a pile with the FEL, don't you need to unload the trans./w the clutch first before moving the shuttle to neut. or rev.?
I am not questioning your method of operation.:newhere: Just asking. This is new to me, I don't have an OM for the tractor yet.
Sales people arn't always the best ones to ask, when it comes to actual operating situations.

Thanks, Bill

 

[magicheater]

We traded our Case CX80 with 12/12 Synchronized Shuttle Shift in for a Kubota M8540 with 12/12 Hydraulic Shuttle Shift. I will always go with the Hydraulic Shuttle over the Synchronized Shuttle due to increased ease of use.

Unlike the Synchro, on the Hydro unit, you don't have to depress the foot clutch to change directions, the clutch pack is automatically activated by the hand operated shift lever. I don't even use the foot clutch much any more.

Ditto!

 

[Bluegill2]

I just ordered a new L3240 w/GST. I have had syncro shuttles, regular gear, and a hydro, but never a GST. I have played around with them, but never actually worked with one.
If you are digging into a pile with the FEL, don't you need to unload the trans./w the clutch first before moving the shuttle to neut. or rev.?
I am not questioning your method of operation.:newhere: Just asking. This is new to me, I don't have an OM for the tractor yet.
Sales people arn't always the best ones to ask, when it comes to actual operating situations.

Thanks, Bill

I've never used a GST, but it appears to work like an automatic trans with no clutch, except you have to manually change gears.

 

[Notforhire]

I've never used a GST, but it appears to work like an automatic trans with no clutch, except you have to manually change gears.

This much I know. You can't come to a stop without stepping on the clutch.(no slip, not like a torque converter).
You can change gears, up or down without clutching.
There is some sort of Hyd. operated wet clutch pack, in the trans.
Is this different from the Hydro. Shuttle you guys are talking about?
Is your shuttle like the ones used in TLBs?:anyone:

 

[Bluegill2]

This much I know. You can't come to a stop without stepping on the clutch.(no slip, not like a torque converter).
You can change gears, up or down without clutching.
There is some sort of Hyd. operated wet clutch pack, in the trans.
Is this different from the Hydro. Shuttle you guys are talking about?
Is your shuttle like the ones used in TLBs?:anyone:

Then it's probably similar to the hydro shuttle. On our 3750 it has forward, neutral, reverse on a leaver on the left side of the steering column. You have to clutch (or bump the lever into neutral) to stop, but no clutch to change from forward to reverse.

 

[Notforhire]

Then it's probably similar to the hydro shuttle. On our 3750 it has forward, neutral, reverse on a leaver on the left side of the steering column. You have to clutch (or bump the lever into neutral) to stop, but no clutch to change from forward to reverse.

Yup, that's the set up FNR on the left column, 12 spd in line shifter on the left fender.
So if you are digging in a pile w/ a FEL do you clutch or just kick it in neut when you want to stop pushing?

 

[Notforhire]

Sorry, I didn't intend on hijacking the thread, but maybe this will help the OP decide.:ashamed:

 

[Bluegill2]

Yup, that's the set up FNR on the left column, 12 spd in line shifter on the left fender.
So if you are digging in a pile w/ a FEL do you clutch or just kick it in neut when you want to stop pushing?

When I'm gettin a bucket full from a pile, I do it in one fluid motion. In the right gear, curling and lifting the bucket while the tractor is slowly moving forward. If I have to, I'll clutch it to keep from stalling, or spinning, but usually can bump into neutral when the bucket is full, then reverse to back out, without using the clutch.

 

[Notforhire]

Thank you for the info.

 

[TripleR]

Just for clarification, on a Hydraulic Shuttle Shift, you are "clutching" whether you depress the foot pedal or move the column mounted shuttle lever to the center position.

I know little about the GST, but Agrantina, David7turns, Depmandog and some others have them; maybe they can help.

 

[Notforhire]

Just for clarification, on a Hydraulic Shuttle Shift, you are "clutching" whether you depress the foot pedal or move the column mounted shuttle lever to the center position.
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On the Hyd SS, are there two clutches, a dry disk, and a wet clutch pac inside the trans.?

 

[kuboman]

Not sure but I think with the hydraulic shuttle there is not what we all call a traditional clutch. Just some kind of hydraulic clutch pack.

 

[Bluegill2]

On the old L3750 hyd shuttle, it has a tradition clutch with foot peddle. The leaver on the steering column is hydraulic, forward, neutral, reverse.