Oil & Fuel GC 2610 Hydraulic Oil Level

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dspdante

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1998 Toro Wheel Horse 523Dxi
I recently picked up a new 2610 TLB and am hoping some fellow members have one too. I was checking my fluids and noticed the glass window in the rear was empty after shutting the engine off and fills about half way while running (on level surface). I called the dealer and he assured me that the fluid level is okay and it was given a full prep before delivery. My confusion began when I read the owners manual and it clearly states, run the engine, park on level ground, turn off engine and you should see fluid in the window. Has anyone had a similar experience with this machine? Should I add oil until it appears in the window? thanks
 
   / GC 2610 Hydraulic Oil Level #2  
I recently picked up a new 2610 TLB and am hoping some fellow members have one too. I was checking my fluids and noticed the glass window in the rear was empty after shutting the engine off and fills about half way while running (on level surface). I called the dealer and he assured me that the fluid level is okay and it was given a full prep before delivery. My confusion began when I read the owners manual and it clearly states, run the engine, park on level ground, turn off engine and you should see fluid in the window. Has anyone had a similar experience with this machine? Should I add oil until it appears in the window? thanks

I will never trust what the dealer tells me ever again. While you might be okay, I would go by what the manual says. Also-check to make sure all the grease zerks are greased-especially the backhoe. My dealership assured me of the sdame thing and I had water and rust come right out of a joint that had never been greased before.
 
   / GC 2610 Hydraulic Oil Level #3  
Do what the manual says.:thumbsup:
 
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I wanted to get some opinions first. thanks. the dealer also told me that to much is almost as bad as not enough. any truth to that statement?
 
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I will never trust what the dealer tells me ever again. While you might be okay, I would go by what the manual says. Also-check to make sure all the grease zerks are greased-especially the backhoe. My dealership assured me of the sdame thing and I had water and rust come right out of a joint that had never been greased before.
should I fill it with the FEL and BH in a specific position?
 
   / GC 2610 Hydraulic Oil Level #6  
that's an area of confusion for pretty well everybody, i think.

i err on the side of caution and make sure that the sight glass is still full with things like the loader and backhoe cylinders extended.

imho, it's a poor arrangement that warrants an upgrade/redesign of some sort.

still love my 2410 though. :thumbsup:
 
   / GC 2610 Hydraulic Oil Level #7  
Check the last item, on my list for new owners. http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/massey-ferguson-owning-operating/197005-all-newbies-faq.html

There is a lot of oil in your tractor, (about 4.5 gallons). You can get a quart of Permatran and add some, that won't hurt either. It doesn't sound like you will would need much.

Don't obsess about the exact level. When your talking differences of even 20 or 30 ounces in a volume of 576 ounces of oil, it's a small percentage. And it's not going to make a difference either way.

If your going to do a 50 hr. oil change, you will be changing it pretty soon anyway. 50 hrs. comes up real fast. Then, if you want you can get an eye dropper, and a level, and really get the oil level perfect. :D

I would be more concerned about finding the grease fittings they missed, or did not fill properly, when they "prepped" it.
 
   / GC 2610 Hydraulic Oil Level #8  
Sounds like they are filling these below the sight glass so after the warranty runs out and you have a failure, it will be all your fault for not doing as the manual stated! That is EXACTLY how mine was delivered! That and check you front axle too, mine was low also. And I can't remember how many grease fittings were missed! Like ray66 said, if they were hard to get to, or had to move the loader or BH to get to them, they were likely missed!
I was given a gallon of permatran when I bought it to top off myself and used it all:mad:!
Now, after the fist 50 I have switched all over to Amsoil. I like the added security of protection from syn. I have 128 hrs on mine now and LOVE it! I do not deal with my original dealer for anything, was treated very unfairly and found one that I deal with on a regular basis for filters and such. You have made a very good investment in my opinion. Get the service and parts manual because it is very easy to do all the work yourself on these.
:thumbsup:
 
   / GC 2610 Hydraulic Oil Level #9  
Sounds like they are filling these below the sight glass so after the warranty runs out and you have a failure, it will be all your fault for not doing as the manual stated! That is EXACTLY how mine was delivered! :

I would not jump to the conclusion that this is an epidemic, or a conspiracy...yet. :D

I am not even sure your deficiency was enough to do any significant damage in 50 hours of use.

Then, you need to consider it would not do their reputation much good to have these things failing left and right either.

Although, I guess I could argue they don't seem to care much about the pump defect they stuck the early model owners with. :smiley_aafz:
 
   / GC 2610 Hydraulic Oil Level #10  
Sounds like they are filling these below the sight glass so after the warranty runs out and you have a failure, it will be all your fault for not doing as the manual stated! That is EXACTLY how mine was delivered! That and check you front axle too, mine was low also. And I can't remember how many grease fittings were missed! Like ray66 said, if they were hard to get to, or had to move the loader or BH to get to them, they were likely missed!
I was given a gallon of permatran when I bought it to top off myself and used it all:mad:!
Now, after the fist 50 I have switched all over to Amsoil. I like the added security of protection from syn. I have 128 hrs on mine now and LOVE it! I do not deal with my original dealer for anything, was treated very unfairly and found one that I deal with on a regular basis for filters and such. You have made a very good investment in my opinion. Get the service and parts manual because it is very easy to do all the work yourself on these.
:thumbsup:

The low fluid is the dealers fault. That should of been caught when they did the PDI.
 

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