New Shop Lights?

[monteu]

I went to Home Depot and got 6, High Output, six bulb fitures to cover a 40'x40' area.. Works great and I'm very pleased with the outcome. These.. Industrial 6-Light High Bay Hanging Fixture-IB 632 MVH at The Home Depot
Wedge

How high are your ceilings in your 40 x 40 area?

 

[KennyG]

The lights I have seen at Menards are plugin. Is that what you are suggesting just put in electrical outlets?

Yes, it may seem to be a little low tech, but having a network of outlets and using plug in lights, you can move them around and add additional lights with very little effort. For some strange reason, these plug in lights seem to often be cheaper than wire in versions and I don't see any downside to them as long as you get the cold start versions, which seem to have much better ballasts than the warm weather versions. I've bought them when the have the money back rebate promotion that makes them very economical.

I did my pole barn (40' x 48') with three lighting circuits. One controls lights in the shop/workbench area and near the overhead doors. A second covers the rest of the building which is mainly storage space. The third controls a separate set over the benches that effectively will double the light in the shop area when I turn it on.

I checked with some of my references and current guidelines seem to be (with T-5/T-8 lighting) 0.5 watts/ft2 in storage areas and 0.7 watts/ft2 in office areas. I've got about 0.5 overall and it seems to be OK, but I will add the third circuit lights and bring it up to over 1.0 over the workbenches.

 

[woodlandfarms]

Do to goverment restrictions the 4ft fluorescents are no longer made.

HUH????????? Maybe in Ohio but only Incandescents are currently on the chopping block... and only a limited number of them...

This from Wiki-
In December 2007, the federal government enacted the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007, which contains maximum wattage requirements for all general service incandescent lamps producing from 310?600 lumens of light.[40] However, these regulations never became law, as another section of the 2007 EISA bill overwrites them, and thus, current law, as specified in the U.S. Code, "does not relate to maximum wattage requirements."[41]
The efficiency standards will start with 100-watt bulbs and end with 40-watt bulbs. The timeline for these standards was to start in January 2012, but on December 16, 2011, the U.S. House passed the final 2012 budget legislation, which effectively delayed the implementation until October 2012.[42]
Light bulbs outside of this range are exempt from the restrictions. Also exempt are several classes of specialty lights, including appliance lamps, rough service bulbs, 3-way, colored lamps, stage lighting, and plant lights.
The United States Environmental Protection Agency's Energy Star program in March 2008 established rules for labeling lamps that meet a set of standards for efficiency, starting time, life expectancy, color, and consistency of performance. The intent of the program is to reduce consumer concerns about efficient light bulbs due to variable quality of products.[32] Those CFLs with a recent Energy Star certification start in less than one second and do not flicker. Energy Star Light Bulbs for Consumers is a resource for finding and comparing Energy Star qualified lamps.
By 2020, a second tier of restrictions would become effective, which requires all general-purpose bulbs to produce at least 45 lumens per watt (similar to current CFLs). Exemptions from the Act include reflector flood, 3-way, candelabra, colored, and other specialty bulbs.[43]
In 2011, Rep. Joe Barton of Texas and 14 other Republicans joined to introduce the Better Use of Light Bulbs Act or BULB Act (H.R. 91), which would have repealed Subtitle B of Title III of the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007. Barton was opposed to regulation, while Rep. Michael Burgess pointed to jobs purportedly lost to China and voiced a fear of mercury problems resulting from CFL use.[44] On July 12, 2011, H.R. 2417 failed to pass by the required two-thirds[clarification needed] majority in the U.S. House.[45]

 

[Aging TOO Fast]

Do to goverment restrictions the 4ft fluorescents are no longer made.

If that IS TRUE.... then WASHINGTON IS TRYING TO KEEP (put) U S <plural meanings meant> IN THE DARK!!!!

Buggers are SCR%$@*&ing us over in so many ways!!!

 

[Aging TOO Fast]

HUH????????? Maybe in Ohio but only Incandescents are currently on the chopping block... and only a limited number of them...

This from Wiki-
In December 2007, the federal government enacted the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007, which contains maximum wattage requirements for all general service incandescent lamps producing from 310?600 lumens of light.[40] However, these regulations never became law, as another section of the 2007 EISA bill overwrites them, and thus, current law, as specified in the U.S. Code, "does not relate to maximum wattage requirements."[41]
The efficiency standards will start with 100-watt bulbs and end with 40-watt bulbs. The timeline for these standards was to start in January 2012, but on December 16, 2011, the U.S. House passed the final 2012 budget legislation, which effectively delayed the implementation until October 2012.[42]
Light bulbs outside of this range are exempt from the restrictions. Also exempt are several classes of specialty lights, including appliance lamps, rough service bulbs, 3-way, colored lamps, stage lighting, and plant lights.
The United States Environmental Protection Agency's Energy Star program in March 2008 established rules for labeling lamps that meet a set of standards for efficiency, starting time, life expectancy, color, and consistency of performance. The intent of the program is to reduce consumer concerns about efficient light bulbs due to variable quality of products.[32] Those CFLs with a recent Energy Star certification start in less than one second and do not flicker. Energy Star Light Bulbs for Consumers is a resource for finding and comparing Energy Star qualified lamps.
By 2020, a second tier of restrictions would become effective, which requires all general-purpose bulbs to produce at least 45 lumens per watt (similar to current CFLs). Exemptions from the Act include reflector flood, 3-way, candelabra, colored, and other specialty bulbs.[43]
In 2011, Rep. Joe Barton of Texas and 14 other Republicans joined to introduce the Better Use of Light Bulbs Act or BULB Act (H.R. 91), which would have repealed Subtitle B of Title III of the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007. Barton was opposed to regulation, while Rep. Michael Burgess pointed to jobs purportedly lost to China and voiced a fear of mercury problems resulting from CFL use.[44] On July 12, 2011, H.R. 2417 failed to pass by the required two-thirds[clarification needed] majority in the U.S. House.[45]

Problem is By the time the bill to "Not to go after violators making bulbs was passed" MOST manufacturers probably had already retooled for pork barrel lights...

Has anyone noticed how short a life a new incandescent bulb actually lasts these days???
NOT made like bulbs were years ago... that lasted years......

CFL's ARE worthless replacements where; instant full light, short-term or cold temperature use
is needed.

CFL's have a place, but not all places are for CFL's

LEDs are not Cheap or a real alternative in a lot of cases either.

 

[murphy1244]

HUH????????? Maybe in Ohio but only Incandescents are currently on the chopping block... and only a limited number of them...

This from Wiki-
In December 2007, the federal government enacted the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007, which contains maximum wattage requirements for all general service incandescent lamps producing from 310?600 lumens of light.[40] However, these regulations never became law, as another section of the 2007 EISA bill overwrites them, and thus, current law, as specified in the U.S. Code, "does not relate to maximum wattage requirements."[41]
The efficiency standards will start with 100-watt bulbs and end with 40-watt bulbs. The timeline for these standards was to start in January 2012, but on December 16, 2011, the U.S. House passed the final 2012 budget legislation, which effectively delayed the implementation until October 2012.[42]
Light bulbs outside of this range are exempt from the restrictions. Also exempt are several classes of specialty lights, including appliance lamps, rough service bulbs, 3-way, colored lamps, stage lighting, and plant lights.
The United States Environmental Protection Agency's Energy Star program in March 2008 established rules for labeling lamps that meet a set of standards for efficiency, starting time, life expectancy, color, and consistency of performance. The intent of the program is to reduce consumer concerns about efficient light bulbs due to variable quality of products.[32] Those CFLs with a recent Energy Star certification start in less than one second and do not flicker. Energy Star Light Bulbs for Consumers is a resource for finding and comparing Energy Star qualified lamps.
By 2020, a second tier of restrictions would become effective, which requires all general-purpose bulbs to produce at least 45 lumens per watt (similar to current CFLs). Exemptions from the Act include reflector flood, 3-way, candelabra, colored, and other specialty bulbs.[43]
In 2011, Rep. Joe Barton of Texas and 14 other Republicans joined to introduce the Better Use of Light Bulbs Act or BULB Act (H.R. 91), which would have repealed Subtitle B of Title III of the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007. Barton was opposed to regulation, while Rep. Michael Burgess pointed to jobs purportedly lost to China and voiced a fear of mercury problems resulting from CFL use.[44] On July 12, 2011, H.R. 2417 failed to pass by the required two-thirds[clarification needed] majority in the U.S. House.[45]

Read this and post your I'm sorry I was wrong post. New light bulb rules go into effect Saturday - KansasCity.com

 

[murphy1244]

Not only have they stopped making the bulbs, you can't use your ballast on the new approved bulbs.

 

[Aging TOO Fast]

Read this and post your I'm sorry I was wrong post. New light bulb rules go into effect Saturday - KansasCity.com

Just PROVES that WASHINGTON IS IN SOMEBODY'S POCKET while WE
get scr@#%^ED
read the article look at the NUMBERS in use SOMEONE making BIG MONEY ON THAT DEAL!!!

 

[murphy1244]

You think its GE ???? One of o'bummers friends.

 

[Aging TOO Fast]

wow just thought of something ....

GET ready for a new government backed PROCESSED FOOD....

"SOYLENT GREEN"