what to look for when buying a flail mower

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ugabulldog

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I am going to an auction soon to look at a couple of used flails (not sure condition), I am brand new to flails and wondering what zI should look for? Thanks
 
   / what to look for when buying a flail mower #2  
I just try and check the bearings by turning the drum. Look the knives over, check and see if they are hitting the drum inside anywhere, check the belts, look the gearbox over for leaks. Check the pto shaft out, etc. It's always best to hear it run, not always an option at an auction. The last one I bought was 150 bucks but needed knives pto shaft and belt. Good luck to you. You also might check out Leonz post, he is pretty wise on these old flail mowers.
 
   / what to look for when buying a flail mower #3  
I am going to an auction soon to look at a couple of used flails (not sure condition),
I am brand new lails and wondering what zI should look for? Thanks


First:

Thank you so kindly Nighttrain for the kind compliment

Second:

Hello and good evening UGAbulldog,



First and foremost you will need to find out if the flailmower(s)
will fit your actual needs and mowing duties.


My dad used a seven foot JD25A finish flailmower for years behind
a gas Ford Jubilee with an oil bath pre-cleaner


If they have side slicers they will do mow brush and also good sod
for you with no changes other than mowing height.

A scoop knive is used for heavy brush mowing and can be used for good
sod but will leave a bit of a waffle pattern.


The second thing is making sure you have power enough in your
prime mover(tractor) to operate the flailmower. The other issue
is whether you have a hydrostatic tractor and it has a high enough
PTO horsepower available at 540 R.P.M.


If you can spend some time before the auction with these mowers:

A small machinist hammer will tell you the condition of the steel and
the welds. check the three point attachment points, they can be a bit rusty
but thay have to be solid-you should not be able to bend them.
you still can obtain pin adapters to convert a type one or two hitch to a
type three hitch etc.


Parts are available for most all makes of flailmowers and parts for the Mott
line are a specialty of the two families that own flail master and clean cutter.


Bearings and V belts are always available as they are a metric sized repair part
so thats never an issue.


The side slicer knives, scoop knives and hammer knives and knive hangers are
what is referrred to as a consumable part which are also available.


If the mowers are used Motts or john Deere flail mowers you will have
a bidding war on your hands but hold firm and wait the other bidders out
when bidding as parts are available.


These units do not have any special drive line requirements as the V belts are the
sacrificial link to protect the flailmower. More than likely the PTO Shafts will be
gone and then you can buy the right sized shaft for the mower and your tractor.





If the flailmowers are the older Motts they may go inexpensively and would be
a good winter project if your into that sort of thing as a repaired functional flail
mower will sell on craigs list or the local pennysaver/shopper.


If it is a John Deere 25A either a 5-6 or seven footer win the bidding war by biding
your time as the competition will drop out.These mowers(7 footers)are hitting
the $6,000.00 range as new units.


You can buy parts for old John Deere flail mowers too so thats not an issue.

People have a generla dislike of flail mowers because they have more mower knives
and require a bit of work BUT the safety and piece of mind with flail mower cannot be
challenged by any other mower in my opinion because they do not throw things like a
rotary cutter and mow at a much lower decibel rating for the end user even mowing
heavy brush as all the noise is kept under the mower hood.

If you could provide me with an auction link I can give you a better opinion.



leonZ
 
   / what to look for when buying a flail mower #4  
I bought an older rusted Motts last year and haven't had a problem with it so far. I was able to see it run and I mostly looked for perfect balance. It hummed along very nicely in spite of the rust. I believe it wasn't used much, just sat out in the weather. It certainly is nice and compact compared to a brush hog.
 
   / what to look for when buying a flail mower #5  
Leonz, any thoughts on the ford, specifically a 917a. I picked up one of these a while back that had the main body bent in, when a large tree fell on it. I got that part fixed and run it for maybe 20 minutes. I then discovered when we welded the bottom 2 links back, the angle was off and the pto shaft ate off the grease zirks, probably when I lifted the mower up while mowing. Then I also noticed the output shaft from gear box was leaking slightly. I sort of lost interest in it after that. Don't know what to do with the 917a now. The jd seems to spin easier, waiting on the new knives and hangers for it. Wouldn't mind some rain so the grass would grow also-lol.
 
   / what to look for when buying a flail mower #6  
I bought an older rusted Motts last year and haven't had a problem with it so far. I was able to see it run and I mostly looked for perfect balance. It hummed along very nicely in spite of the rust. I believe it wasn't used much, just sat out in the weather. It certainly is nice and compact compared to a brush hog.



Good morning Joe,

I want to welcome you as the newest member of the flail mower nation.

Only 17,885 mowers to go.
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Once you go flail you never go back:thumbsup::licking::drool:
Pronovost or not at all!!!:thumbsup::licking::drool:
 
   / what to look for when buying a flail mower #7  
ouch!!, Good Morning Nighttrain1,

I remember you mentioning the Ford 917 earlier.

Does the 917 have a removable rear trash door to allow the tall grass and brush
clippings to be thrown out more quickly?


The 917 flail Mower is salvageable and it sounds like a winter project or gasp!! selling it for a good used parts
mower and you can recoup some or all of your investment, the rotor is worth a small fortune even though it is used.


The gear box may need bearings and of course a new seal.

It depends on your patience and time available to you nightrain1
as you are going to want to put it on a very strong low metal bench
to work on everything comfortably

I am sure you could replace the old three point hitch with a new one or a used one from
a tractor boneyard. I am unsure how much a gearbox would run you from Ford but I am
sure you could buy one from flail master as long as you know what the shaft diameter
and type are for the mower.

These gearboxes are one to one gear box and the big issue is making sure the input and
output shafts match.

You could also purchase a right angle gearbox from a Boston Gear reseller/representative
if the identification tag is still on the gearbox.

Time for bed ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
 
 

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