Pumpkin Patch Project

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I'm betting they'll make it by Oct 1. We weren't getting much rain either, but getting quite a bit last couple of weeks. My pumpkins really took off. The plants look great, but I'm a little concerned about the low number of blooms so far. A few blooms but not many yet. Hope I didn't put too much nitrogen on them.
I think in some of your other posts you mentioned temps over 100. That can wreck havoc with blossoms as well as pollination, but if it cools down you can still get a later set. A lot of pumpkin growing is timing of weather patterns and how they coincide with blossom development.
 
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I think in some of your other posts you mentioned temps over 100. That can wreck havoc with blossoms as well as pollination, but if it cools down you can still get a later set. A lot of pumpkin growing is timing of weather patterns and how they coincide with blossom development.
Good information Downslope. Sounds like you are knowledgeable regarding pumpkins. I'm a rookie but have become interested in this pumpkin thing. In fact, I'm thinking about maybe even trying to sell some next year if I have enough growing success. Nothing big but maybe I can put a little money in my grandson's college fund if I am able to sell some.

Where are you located? Do you grow commercially or just for fun? Thanks for your input into my pumpkin thread.
 
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I took a few pictures of the pumpkin patch today. The 1st and 4th pictures are the patch. The second and third picture are close ups of each of the two varieties I planted. Notice that one of the plants is more of the bushy type plant. I don't know what variety it is. I just saved some seeds from a pumpkin I had last Halloween and planted them. The other picture is Howden variety. I bought those seeds at the co-op. Notice they are a more of a running type vine. Man do those things run. They are getting way out there and show no sign of stopping. They take up a lot of space.

The blooms are now starting to show up. I have even seen a few male blossoms that look to be pollinated and starting to form a very small pumpkin. I haven't seen any bees on the blooms, but apparently they are getting pollinated. I guess the bees in my area are pretty stealthy.
 

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   / Pumpkin Patch Project #44  
Very nice. I only have about a dozen hills in my garden, not nearly as many as you have. Yours are also a little farther along as well. Good job.
 
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I thought I would post an update on my pumpkins. Things seem to be progressing well. As you can see from one of the pics, the entire patch has canopied over. My initial thought is that maybe I planted the rows a little closer than I will in the future. I think that possibly some of the female blooms won't produce a pumpkin because of the thick canopy but not sure if that is a valid concern. My rows are 6' feet apart, and I think I will go to 8 or 9 feet next year.

Another picture shows a rather large Howden pumpkin that has developed. It is yellow in color. My expectation was that the pumpkins would go from green to orange. I'm not sure if this yellow coloration is natural or is caused by some sort of disease. The plants and yellow pumpkin look healthy so maybe it's a natural occurrence. I haven't found an abundance of young pumpkins yet, but there are probably many under there that are just hidden by the thick foliage.

The other pic is of my pumpkin growing helper. He's about to turn 3 and is the best helper a granddad could have.
 

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   / Pumpkin Patch Project #46  
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TNhf,

I"m going to guess it's not a disease. I planted a couple of different varieties and the smaller ones (Jack-O-Lantern) started green and are now changing to orange. The large ones (Big Max) started a pale yellow and are now starting to turn orange.

Of course mine could be diseased too, so who knows!!!


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   / Pumpkin Patch Project #47  
I thought I would post an update on my pumpkins. Things seem to be progressing well. As you can see from one of the pics, the entire patch has canopied over. My initial thought is that maybe I planted the rows a little closer than I will in the future. I think that possibly some of the female blooms won't produce a pumpkin because of the thick canopy but not sure if that is a valid concern. My rows are 6' feet apart, and I think I will go to 8 or 9 feet next year.

Another picture shows a rather large Howden pumpkin that has developed. It is yellow in color. My expectation was that the pumpkins would go from green to orange. I'm not sure if this yellow coloration is natural or is caused by some sort of disease. The plants and yellow pumpkin look healthy so maybe it's a natural occurrence. I haven't found an abundance of young pumpkins yet, but there are probably many under there that are just hidden by the thick foliage.

The other pic is of my pumpkin growing helper. He's about to turn 3 and is the best helper a granddad could have.
If the rest of the plant looks healthy, I would say it's not a disease. If the leaves have a mottled or mosaic appearance, then you probably have a virus spread by cucumber beetles. A true Howden jack-o-lantern type conventional field pumpkin should not start out like that, it should go from green to orange. Did you purchase the seed or save your own? Maybe it is just a stray seed that got mixed in, it might not even be a pumpkin.

Danno mentions Bix Max type below. They are a completely different species, curcurbita maxima. Howden type field pumpkins are cucurbita pepo. The maxima will start out yellow, the pepo start out green. The two types will not cross polinate. Take a look at the stem. If it's smooth with no ridges or grooves, then it's not a conventional field pumpkin and something got mixed up with seed.
 
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Good information Downslope. Sounds like you are knowledgeable regarding pumpkins. I'm a rookie but have become interested in this pumpkin thing. In fact, I'm thinking about maybe even trying to sell some next year if I have enough growing success. Nothing big but maybe I can put a little money in my grandson's college fund if I am able to sell some.

Where are you located? Do you grow commercially or just for fun? Thanks for your input into my pumpkin thread.
Jerry, I am growing the pumpkins about 80 miles from New york City. I'm growing them commercially, but it is also for fun as we rarely turn a big profit when you consider all the inputs. I used to sell them wholesale when our area was rural, but in the last 15 years it has become heavily suburbanized and I can sell almost all of them retail. I plant between 9-13 acres every year depending on crop rotations. I don't push for high production and keep the rows 10 feet apart.

You were asking about beetles later in the season when the vines are large. Beetles pose the most danger when the plants are just coming up because (1) they can eat everything down to nothing being left and (2) they vector mosaic virus which can ruin most of the crop. Beetles are more attracted to some varieties than others. They definitly prefer things like Hubbard squash, turban squash and Big Max/Prizewinner types which are a different species from regular jack-o-lanterns. I have seen some farmers plant Hubbard Squash or Turban Squash at the field edges as a trap crop and then zap them with insecticide.

Later in the season (like now) the plants will grow faster than the beetles can eat them but you still have the virus threat although not as great. The real danger late in the season is when the vines start to die due to old age, mildew or whatever. If there are no tasty vines to eat the beetles will move onto the fruit and start eating the rind surface and then you will have to do something.

Like I said, I have the rows planted 10 feet apart. I have a sprayer that can take 30 feet, so I just drive thru every 3rd row and mash some. It does some damage but it also thins out some of the crop. I would like to have a wider sprayer or maybe one with a 1-sided boom. I don't know how wide your patch is, but maybe you could modify your sprayer to have some type of 1-sided boom supported by a frame over the sprayer or maybe even the tractor roll bar or fender mount (just thinking of crazy ideas1).

I'm not having any bug problems right now as I used insecticide treated seed, but if beetles start to show up I will have to use insecticide before harvest.

I have about 10 bee hives so have to be careful with pesticides. Read the labels, spray late in day when blossoms are closed and bees are back at the hive, etc.

Good luck wih your crop.
 
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Jerry, how did your crop turn out?
 
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Jerry, how did your crop turn out?
Thanks for asking Steve. I have been meaning to post a final update but just haven't gotten around to it. Your question has inspired me to do a recap and post a few pics.

All things considered, it turned out great, especially since this was my first try at raising pumpkins. I learned quite a few things thanks to some great input from several TBNers including you Steve. My main purpose in doing the pumpkin patch was to entertain some folks from my church and give some pumpkins to the kids. The pictures are from the pumpkin patch party. We had a hayride, ate lots of good food and visited the pumpkin patch so everyone could get a pumpkin. I got around 100-150 pumpkins from the small patch so I had plenty to give away. My wife even sold a few at a flea market she attended at a later date. It was a fun project!
 

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