Day Time Running Lights!

[radioman]

the day drl's are mandatory- is the day insurance companies stop giving out discounts for them. I dont think its really that hard to program or install a switch to turn off lights via switch when needed but automatically come back on when car restarts. This would be ideal I think. get rid of the power locks/windows/etc and give me DRL's with a switch to turn off. (need lights to be off when car is running for heat on those chilly nights at outdoor movie drive ins. yes they still exists)

 

[aczlan]

the day drl's are mandatory- is the day insurance companies stop giving out discounts for them. I dont think its really that hard to program or install a switch to turn off lights via switch when needed but automatically come back on when car restarts. This would be ideal I think. get rid of the power locks/windows/etc and give me DRL's with a switch to turn off. (need lights to be off when car is running for heat on those chilly nights at outdoor movie drive ins. yes they still exists)

I dont know about current vehicles, but the '04 and '05 Chevrolet Express 3500 15 passenger vans that they had at the hotel I used to work for only turned them on when the van was in gear. They also had a "turn off DRLs" momentary position on the headlight switch that let you shut them off until you turned the van off.

Aaron Z

 

[Bird]

get rid of the power locks/windows/etc and give me DRL's

Oh NO!!! Now I like the idea of the DRLs, but I sure don't want them enough to give up the power door locks, windows, and mirrors because I USE all of those things.

 

[WilliamBos]

They have been law up here since 1990. Not too sure why it has not been made mandatory in the USA.

 

[Bird]

They have been law up here since 1990. Not too sure why it has not been made mandatory in the USA.

Yep, my last trip to Alaska was in 1991, and while my 1989 one ton Chevy didn't have them, I noticed the signs along the way requiring headlights on all the time, so that was no problem to just turn them on.

 

[WilliamBos]

I agree with you completely. Seems people like to complain for no reason. Safety is no joke, and DRL's are safety equipment. Leave the luxury options for the vehicle buyer to opt out of.

Not on mine you didn't...I have never run as a cyclopse..

I personally have no problem with running lights. I really don't see how everyone is seeing this as some infringement of rights...Good grief. It's a safety thing and I have no problem with it...Kinda like airbags etc...Now the OBD2 insurance monitoring thing, I have a serious problem there and I won't even think about signing up for that one no matter what the savings...Running lights don't pay attention to my driving habits, those do...The black box thing is another matter...Who knows where that will go.

 

[radioman]

Oh NO!!! Now I like the idea of the DRLs, but I sure don't want them enough to give up the power door locks, windows, and mirrors because I USE all of those things.

I didnt mean to say give it up completely. All I meant was I don't need it- its nice to know its an option. I would love to bee able to have better control of buying what I want instead what dealer buys in advance with goodies he thinks public wants and sell to us. Its just too bad that options means its cheaper to get it built in then add later. Whats wrong with being able to add anything you want later with no additional cost and save money on labor. - anyway that is another thread topic I'm afraid.

 

[Cyclone Jake]

The NHTSA released a study a few years ago that found no statistical evidence that DRL's reduced crashes.

As for the idea of lights turning with your windshield wipers; Ford has had this feature for a few years on their vehicles when you have the automatic headlights activated. About 30 seconds after turning on your wipers, the lights automatically come on.

 

[Ductape]

I agree with you completely. Seems people like to complain for no reason. Safety is no joke, and DRL's are safety equipment.

I think its more of a difference between what we feel the purpose of our government is. If a person thinks they are somehow safer with their lights, wipers, snow tires on..... go ahead and put em on. No need to the government to pass a law to tell me so.

A legislative session where NO new laws are passed is a successful legislative session to me.

 

[WilliamBos]

I think its more of a difference between what we feel the purpose of our government is. If a person thinks they are somehow safer with their lights, wipers, snow tires on..... go ahead and put em on. No need to the government to pass a law to tell me so.

A legislative session where NO new laws are passed is a successful legislative session to me.

Actually, snow tires are law in Quebec, and may become law in Ontario. All season tires are garbage when it comes to winter, and are totally common sense. They are three season tires at best.

 

[JerryK]

I think that DRL's are the best thing since sliced bread.... mandatory in the States is OK with me. I even put the circuits in my non-GM vehicles... ANOTHER THING them Canucks do right..... eh?

 

[Domush]

How about just making sure you drive safely and there are laws against driving stupid?

Look closely and slow down if need be.

Or is it just one more government regulation because you don't think people can take care of themselves?

amen.

My truck has DRL and nothing annoys me more than having no option to turn my lights off when approaching people at night, like a camping setting or approaching a house with people sleeping inside. This mandating bs is beyond abhorrent. People can't even be polite anymore. What's next, mandated fog horn when approaching water?

I don't mind running lights, but I own the vehicle and should be the one deciding when they are used, not the "I've never cooked a meal in my life" politicians or, frankly, any of you.

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[JerryK]

DRL's were put on vehicles so the other guy can see you. They were conceived back when the majority of traveling was on two lanes. Jerks coming the other way pulling out in front of you because they could not see you in the summer haze or dusk.... and you would have to dive to the shoulder/try not to flip in the ditch to get out of his way.... Letting you see openings so you could safely pass. It was a jungle out there... and that was WHEN MOST PEOPLE ACTUALLY KNEW HOW TO PASS A VEHICLE.... We were all zooming around in out Wide Track Pontiacs [ except for the Canadian ones that were built on a narrower frame ]......

 

[TripleR]

The NHTSA released a study a few years ago that found no statistical evidence that DRL's reduced crashes.

As for the idea of lights turning with your windshield wipers; Ford has had this feature for a few years on their vehicles when you have the automatic headlights activated. About 30 seconds after turning on your wipers, the lights automatically come on.

There you go, throwing "facts" into an argument, it only confuses people, well probably not; seems minds are already made up.

 

[oldyellr]

As someone else from Canada already mentioned, we've had mandatory DRLs since 1990 (or was it 1991?). For whatever reason, the idea met a lot of opposition in the U.S. (just like motorcycle helmet laws). One problem with DRLs is that some manufacturers feel taillights should also be included and some don't.

 

[JerryK]

Never liked tail lights on during bright sunshine. Still remember the years ago when the Ford cars had 'milky' tail light and head light plastic problems. Couldn't tell much difference if they had their tail lamp or brake lamps on... Same with dirty tail lamps... That is why I don't like ' turn your headlamps on in the daytime ' stuff.....

 

[WilliamBos]

As someone else from Canada already mentioned, we've had mandatory DRLs since 1990 (or was it 1991?). For whatever reason, the idea met a lot of opposition in the U.S. (just like motorcycle helmet laws). One problem with DRLs is that some manufacturers feel taillights should also be included and some don't.

Correct on both parts!! Year 1990, some were called 1991 model, and some were 1990.

 

[Scooby074]

Actually, snow tires are law in Quebec, and may become law in Ontario. All season tires are garbage when it comes to winter, and are totally common sense. They are three season tires at best.

should be the law EVERYWHERE. Wish it was here as well.

Alot of the "rah rah freedom" types on here seem to forget that people are CHEAP.. and if given the option they WONT buy winter tires unless forced.. I got no problem with "YOU" running all-season (summer) tires in winter so long as you can guarantee me that you wont take me out as a result of your cheapness/stupidity when winter comes and you shoot off into the ditch. We all know that is an impossible guarantee to make, therefore legislation is required to force you to have at least the proper tires to be somewhat safe.

Several years ago there was a young girl that went off the road here killing her 2 children.. the cause? worn, "all season" tires on a slushy day. Im sure she would gladly give the several hundred dollars for winters if she could have her kids back today.

 

[Scooby074]

There you go, throwing "facts" into an argument, it only confuses people, well probably not; seems minds are already made up.

Actually the NHTSA study found some benefit to DRL's when it comes to trucks and vans: " a reduction in light trucks' and vans' involvement in two-vehicle crashes by a statistically significant 5.7%"

 

[TripleR]

Actually the NHTSA study found some benefit to DRL's when it comes to trucks and vans: " a reduction in light trucks' and vans' involvement in two-vehicle crashes by a statistically significant 5.7%"

Thanks, I will look it up.