red grease an overkill for everydays greasong on heavy equipment

[Soundguy]

right now we pay 4-5$ a tube for the 'red' grease.. a molly would save us a buck a tube, and still be better than the plain non Ep amber or brown mild ep inthe 2-3$ range..

what do you guys use for your HE greasing?

 

[boomer1025]

I use Amsoil off road grease, but you can go to a Cat Dealer and get their equipment grease which is loaded with molly.

 

[Herkypilot]

I use the moly grease in just about every instance. I haven't noticed any issues.

HP

 

[hosspuller]

Consider the application. When I think heavy equipment, I think of pins and bushings. Not high precision roller bearings. In pins & bushings the need is boundary lubrication under heavy pressure and contamination. That means EP additives and lots of clean grease. Just be aware of mixing different grease structures. I use clay based moly grease and lots of it in my pins & bushings.

See here for more details >>> Grease Basics

 

[Diamondpilot]

I use Mag1 #2 Lithium on everything but bearings. Its cheap and I get it for $1.89 a tube at my local Meijer.

Product Details - Mag 1

For all bearing applications I use Pennzoil Marine Grease. I get it at Menards for about $3 per tube.

Pennzoil Marine Red Grease 14 Oz at Menards

Chris

 

[wdchyd]

I use Mobil XHP222 grease for everything....the blue stuff.....around $3 tube (by the pack of ten)

 

[Foxtrot08]

The color in grease doesn't matter, at all.

CAT grease is a 5% moly blend.

A full synthetic grease is even better, like an EP 220 base oil if you're going to keep up on regular greasing. 460 base oil if you're going to go with extended or hard to reach fittings - or hard use.

I use Conoco/Philips 66 Triton full synthetic grease.

 

[Ken45101]

I use the JD Multi Purpose Poly Urea Grease for just about everything. They recommend it for their skid steers with extended periods on the pins and bushings (50 hours).

Ideal in rolling-contact applications

· -15 to 350°F (-26 to 177°C)

· For high-temperature, extreme-pressure conditions

· Used for initial lubrication at the factory in U-joints and axle bearings

· For excellent protection in corrosive and wet conditions

· Compatible with most other types of grease

· Excellent for all-purpose applications, especially those requiring a severe-duty grease

· Our best multi-purpose grease


Service rating

· Equipment manufacturers' extended service intervals

· NLGI grade 2

It seems to be a pretty good all around grease. It runs around $4 a tube.

Ken

 

[Soundguy]

The color in grease doesn't matter, at all.
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well.. everybody ELSE knew what i was talking about.

I know the color is an addative.. etc.

guess i should have spelled out all the details for you..

 

[sdkubota]

Any grease is better then no grease and the most expensive grease in the world won't make up for lack of proper maintenance. The red is less noticable but when I was in construction we used the cheapest we could find but we greased everything once or twice daily without exception. Never had a pin or bushing wear so much that it rattled or needed replacement.

 

[spruce Deere]

I use power punch, chevron ultra duty, and tried some sort of amsoil red sythetic grease once. Right now I got some valvoline crimson in the 'gun I got for a good deal. All grease is of the NGLI no.2 grade.

Even threw my jobber, they are in the 4-5 bucks a tube range usually.

 

[Ken45101]

Any grease is better then no grease and the most expensive grease in the world won't make up for lack of proper maintenance.

Very true.

when I was in construction we used the cheapest we could find but we greased everything once or twice daily without exception. Never had a pin or bushing wear so much that it rattled or needed replacement.

That cheap grease is expensive if you have to take the time to grease everything twice a day. Like I said earlier, Deere recommends 50 hours for the skid steer with their $4 grease. While I wouldn't suggest going that long, when an extra couple of bucks per tube saves 10-15 minutes of work, that's an economical deal IMO.

Ken

 

[s219]

I got a 35 lb pail of the Kubota polyurea grease (blue-green color). I had been using JD moly grease, but it was too **** messy -- stained everything in sight. I figure if Kubota ships their equipment with the blue stuff, it must be good enough.

 

[Soundguy]

imho.. the cheap non ep grease just isn't very usefull unless you are greasing grey iron bearings and just pushing dirt out.. the minimum I'd ever buy is the mild ep... at work we are all on the red. at home I have a few different, depending on application... ( including that cheap amber for disc bearings. ) Otherwise I'm using mostly a brown/black moly.. though have a few applications where i'm using a nlgi 0/00 ep polyurea grease.. ie.. some steering boxes and small gearboxes setup for grease.. etc..

 

[sdkubota]

Very true.



That cheap grease is expensive if you have to take the time to grease everything twice a day. Like I said earlier, Deere recommends 50 hours for the skid steer with their $4 grease. While I wouldn't suggest going that long, when an extra couple of bucks per tube saves 10-15 minutes of work, that's an economical deal IMO.

Ken

Normally it was the operators job to grease everything while the equipment warmed up during the initial starting. Most equipment worked in pretty harse environments with lots of dirt blowing etc. I can tell you every pivot point looked disgusting and was covered in a grease coating. There is'nt any grease made that will hold on and protect a joint for 50 hours of continual usage in my opinion. In fact I still don't think daily is excessive.

 

[dschuffert]

I use Amsoil Synthetic Polymeric Off-Road grease - I have been very happy with it: AMSOIL Synthetic Polymeric Off-Road Grease - NLGI #2

 

[Soundguy]

Normally it was the operators job to grease everything while the equipment warmed up during the initial starting. Most equipment worked in pretty harse environments with lots of dirt blowing etc. I can tell you every pivot point looked disgusting and was covered in a grease coating. There is'nt any grease made that will hold on and protect a joint for 50 hours of continual usage in my opinion. In fact I still don't think daily is excessive.

sealed joints do pretty good...

 

[Foxtrot08]

Most construction/heavy duty equipment recommends an 8 to 12 hour grease period, unless you're working in wet conditions. Which, in case you change grease and also change your grease times.

Auto greasers are set differently - normally because they use a lighter weight grease - so they grease anywhere from every hour, to two hours.

'Sealed' joints, are just that - sealed until broken. I can see JD recommending 50 hours on some spots, like steering controls. But not 50 hours on the bucket pins.

 

[schmism]

Auto greasers are set differently - normally because they use a lighter weight grease - so they grease anywhere from every hour, to two hours.

Was asked to help trouble shoot the autolube system on the new CAT motor graders here at work just today! there is software portion that drives the system, in timming, you can set the duration of the greasing (usually 1-2 min) and how long an interval usually 2 hrs.

System uses standard CAT grease at a pressure of +-2600PSI. (we were having an issue of getting the system up to proper pressure spec, without such not all joints were receiving the same/right amount of grease.)

 

[spruce Deere]

Boy, every 50 hours...... sealed pivot and oscillation joints on a JD 648g-II skidder I operate on a daily basis call for every ten hours grease, regardless of use. other non-sealed pins, bushings on grapple and booms 8 hours. Everything gets greased at 8 hours on the skidder.

On my 790 and all implements I grease everything before doing work. Loader/bucket pins befor loader'n tiller bearing and u-joints befor till'n and such.

U-joints, tie rods and such on vehicles every oil change, 3000 miles.

Not knocking deere but Ya do know deere sells replacement parts, power for the 50 hour grease brag.

Grease is cheap insurance, but everything will eventually wear. Prolong it with regular grease maintenance.

Everyone knows pay little now or pay mountains later.

All the grease I use on ALL my equipment and vehicles is EP rated NGLI 2. Grease brand not as important as those two things to me