2014 Silverado/Sierra released

[dusty3030]

ok i must be missing something....How have they leaped forward. All the new improvements have been in use by other manufacturers already. The only thing stated new on their engines is comp ratio, VVT and direct injection. oh and they added AFM which most people hate because it consumes oil like there's no tomorrow and GM has never resolved the issue, just said "it's normal". I dont see anything significantly changed or advanced. their engines are all the same size too. I mean why throw all that money changing the 4.3 when you have a great 3.6 v6 motor in your lineup that is fuel efficient and powerful like ford did with the 3.7.
just my 2 cents, does anyone else feel the same way?

I was thinking they just bolted more crap onto the existing engines.
This coming from a 2004 Silverado owner, bowtie loving, Chevy fanboy who (Lord forgive me) would probably by anything but a new Chevy if I had to today.

 

[Peacock]

You really need to read more about the engines. The new 4.3 literallyi shares nothing with the old 4.3.

I believe that all the 5.3 and 6.2 share in common with their predecessors is the piston pins.

 

[RollingsFarms]

Well looks like you guys don't like the Chevy much. This Chevy owner will have to admit, Ford is #1 for a reason, and Dodge is coming on fast. I will have to admit if I was in the market for a new truck, I would probably be at the blue oval place, and might even stop at the Ram place to look them over.

James K0UA

I'm a Chevy guy all the way....prior to 2008 though. I've owned a 2004 and 2011 Z71, my 2004 was a good truck but the 2011 I only kept for a year and it was already starting to fall apart on me. My dad has owned a 76 Scottsdale, 88 Custom Delux and now has a 2001 with 246,000 miles on it. I've offered to buy him a new Chevrolet truck a couple of times and have gotten cussed out each time. He feels the same way about the "new" GM as I do. after 2008 he said in not so many words "they can shove it" and I tend to agree with him. if this is the best they can do with our tax money then they need to close up shop, NOW. this is an absolute joke of a truck.

 

[RollingsFarms]

You really need to read more about the engines. The new 4.3 literallyi shares nothing with the old 4.3.

I believe that all the 5.3 and 6.2 share in common with their predecessors is the piston pins.

I'll have to read about the differences, if I can find them. however, these engines are NOT what they were telling us was coming out though. they touted twin turbo v6's, a choice of v6 engines, kept saying the 5.3 would be replaced by a 5.0 or smaller displacement v8 similar to Ford's 5.0, etc. That's what they kept telling us! these 3 engines are NOT what they said they were working on. the 6.2 was fine like it was, I owned one, super strong engine with respectable fuel economy. they even went and screwed it up with all their bolt on magic fairy dust junk. did you also notice they are still offering their car-like gearing? 3:08 and 3:23. Good Lord. offer some @#$% gears already!!!

 

[Peacock]

I'll have to read about the differences, if I can find them. however, these engines are NOT what they were telling us was coming out though. they touted twin turbo v6's, a choice of v6 engines, kept saying the 5.3 would be replaced by a 5.0 or smaller displacement v8 similar to Ford's 5.0, etc. That's what they kept telling us! these 3 engines are NOT what they said they were working on. the 6.2 was fine like it was, I owned one, super strong engine with respectable fuel economy. they even went and screwed it up with all their bolt on magic fairy dust junk.

No THEY didn't. That was just typical internet rumormill at work.

GM has actually stayed very tight lipped the whole time.

I'd MUCH rather have a naturally aspirated V8 than a turbo V6 with similar power everyday. Especially with Ford's engine development history.

How do people not see EcoBoost as the same 'bolt on magic fairy dust junk'? It's a gimmick. The 5.0 is every bit the engine while being much simpler at the same time.

 

[RollingsFarms]

No THEY didn't. That was just typical internet rumormill at work.

GM has actually stayed very tight lipped the whole time.

I'd MUCH rather have a naturally aspirated V8 than a turbo V6 with similar power everyday. Especially with Ford's engine development history.

How do people not see EcoBoost as the same 'bolt on magic fairy dust junk'? It's a gimmick. The 5.0 is every bit the engine while being much simpler at the same time.

Well for me, I do not want to drive a truck that has the same engine that was in a 90's Blazer or s-10, I don't want to drive a truck with the same tired underpowered v8 that's been around since '99. I never thought the Ecoboost was the greatest thing since sliced bread, but for God sakes GM, EVOLVE. hello 2012, Ford, Toyota and Dodge are here where's GM? oh that's right, they're at the 2005 party.

 

[Peacock]

Well for me, I do not want to drive a truck that has the same engine that was in a 90's Blazer or s-10, I don't want to drive a truck with the same tired underpowered v8 that's been around since '99.

.... Reuss said GM is still looking at using a diesel in one of its light-duty pickups. It should be noted that the article doesn't clearly say if Reuss was speaking about the smaller Colorado/Canyon, which does offer small turbo-diesels in other global markets, or the coming Silverado/Sierra, which has not had a diesel since the late '80s and early '90s. Reuss did not offer further details about when and where such a diesel option would be decided....

Not exactly saying much there. It's as non-specific as can be.

 

[RollingsFarms]

.... Reuss said GM is still looking at using a diesel in one of its light-duty pickups. It should be noted that the article doesn't clearly say if Reuss was speaking about the smaller Colorado/Canyon, which does offer small turbo-diesels in other global markets, or the coming Silverado/Sierra, which has not had a diesel since the late '80s and early '90s. Reuss did not offer further details about when and where such a diesel option would be decided....

Not exactly saying much there. It's as non-specific as can be.

well even if they do plan on bringing a diesel I can PROMISE you they will do it AFTER Ford and Dodge do it and have been doing it for a few years. then GM will be running around screaming "all-new! all-new!". uh, no, all-new means you came up with an idea that no one else had, it doesn't mean you dressed up your outdated truck and still lag behind the rest because your "todays" technology is your competitions "yesterdays" technology. this is most of the reason GM lost me as a lifelong loyal customer recently.

 

[Peacock]

well even if they do plan on bringing a diesel I can PROMISE you they will do it AFTER Ford and Dodge do it and have been doing it for a few years. then GM will be running around screaming "all-new! all-new!". uh, no, all-new means you came up with an idea that no one else had, it doesn't mean you dressed up your outdated truck and still lag behind the rest because your "todays" technology is your competitions "yesterdays" technology. this is most of the reason GM lost me as a lifelong loyal customer recently.

So, how many other manufacturers have direct injected engines across the board?

 

[TheGoose]

Dang, did you even read the press release? The engines are all-new and expect to lead the class in HP and torque. The 4.3L is completely new, an aluminum block and everything. It will even drop down to 4-cylinders using AFM. I bet the 6 is over 300 HP and probably more like 320 if you consider the HP of the smaller Camaro V6.

Why so much hate on the 5.3? Mine was super-reliable and I never heard one whisper (beyond the internet) of problems. Everybody who I know owns one had nothing but great service and luck. I'm betting that when you see the new HP ratings it will be close to 400 hp(380+) and torque around 400 lb-ft of torque. Probably just under 400 if they want to compete with the EB.

I looked at those steps when I bought my Ford....look nice but I bet they don't hold up over time. Plus it kinda takes away some of the utility of the tail-gate. I'm betting the step-bumper is much more useful in the real world. Of course, if you just pick-up groceries and the occassional sheet of plywood (like about 85% of truck buyers) I think the "man step" is a great idea. I would have to see the step-tailgate in person before wanting one though.

Also I noticed that chevy is finally offering the 6.5' box. Probably the #1 reason why I bought the ford. That and the room in the crew cab.

Last time I checked GM is the only truck MFR that offered a diesel in a REAL 1/2 ton pick-up from 1982-1999. I don't think any of the Big 4 (or 5 including Nissan) are going to do it though.