How does GST work

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What are you planning on doing with the machine mostly?
What machines are you looking at?

Primary tasks are loading manure in spreader and spreading on field, moving and grading limestone and gravel for paddocks and buildings, and I'm building another barn next year, need something bigger to handle that much excavating. We're also going to start buying hay in either large squares or round bales, so I need something that can move bales up to 1500# since that's what's available around here for good prices. I also pull a bush hog but would be completely happy with what I have for that. When I bought my B2710 I really underestimated how often I'd need to use FEL. Our problem is we're land locked for access by semis except when there's no crops in the adjacent field, so when I have something delivered I have to dump it on one side of the property, then load it in my dump trailer and move to the other, then spread it. My tractor just takes forever.

I've borrowed my neighbors JD which is 30HP, can't remember model number, that's still clearly too small. My last neighbor had a JD that I used, that was about 40 HP and in retrospect that was about right, but I was too worried about tearing up grass and leaving ruts. Now that I've graded things and put down gravel where I need it, that's not an issue. I also realize I can just wait for the ground to dry out and it won't leave ruts (duh). So I'm looking at L series and M series that are about 40-45 HP. I have to cruise over to the dealer where I bought mine, I don't understand difference between L and M with comparable engine size. Kubota web site sure isn't very good comparing tractors from different families. It seems like M series are cheaper than L series for comparable sized engine, but it's hard to compare used equipment. I also want a cab, tired of freezing my tail feathers in winter.
 
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I'm thinking of buying a larger Kubota, the ones I've looked at have GST, don't know how GST works. Do you move shift lever while in motion, do you need to use clutch or slow down? Do you still have a hydro pedal, or do you move the throttle to change speed? Is it still a hydrostatic transmission underneath the different style shifter, or is it a geared transmission?
tnx
GST goods and services Tax. We now have HST where they combined provincial tax with the services tax to prevent anything slipping the noose, lol.

Canadian Sales Tax Calculator (GST - HST - PST) | HelpSME.com

Just having some fun here;)
 
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Primary tasks are loading manure in spreader and spreading on field, moving and grading limestone and gravel for paddocks and buildings, and I'm building another barn next year, need something bigger to handle that much excavating. We're also going to start buying hay in either large squares or round bales, so I need something that can move bales up to 1500# since that's what's available around here for good prices. I also pull a bush hog but would be completely happy with what I have for that. When I bought my B2710 I really underestimated how often I'd need to use FEL. Our problem is we're land locked for access by semis except when there's no crops in the adjacent field, so when I have something delivered I have to dump it on one side of the property, then load it in my dump trailer and move to the other, then spread it. My tractor just takes forever.

I've borrowed my neighbors JD which is 30HP, can't remember model number, that's still clearly too small. My last neighbor had a JD that I used, that was about 40 HP and in retrospect that was about right, but I was too worried about tearing up grass and leaving ruts. Now that I've graded things and put down gravel where I need it, that's not an issue. I also realize I can just wait for the ground to dry out and it won't leave ruts (duh). So I'm looking at L series and M series that are about 40-45 HP. I have to cruise over to the dealer where I bought mine, I don't understand difference between L and M with comparable engine size. Kubota web site sure isn't very good comparing tractors from different families. It seems like M series are cheaper than L series for comparable sized engine, but it's hard to compare used equipment. I also want a cab, tired of freezing my tail feathers in winter.

It sounds like you plan to travel some distances and do some constant speed work. I found my GST great for that. I could use the hand throttle as a "cruise control". My new HST doesn't have cruise control and I already find myself missing that feature.

ac
 
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I have a GST and really like it. I would buy another one over a HST but that is another story and will start a war............
 
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I have a GST and really like it. I would buy another one over a HST but that is another story and will start a war............

I am really starting to learn to like my HST+, but I still reminisce about my GST every now and then...
 
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It sounds like you plan to travel some distances and do some constant speed work. I found my GST great for that. I could use the hand throttle as a "cruise control". My new HST doesn't have cruise control and I already find myself missing that feature.
ac

I actually use two tractors when I haul with the dump trailer. I borrow my neighbors tractor and leave it hooked to the dump trailer, then I use mine to load it and spread at the other end. Otherwise it takes forever taking the ballast off the back and hooking up to the trailer each load.
 
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I actually use two tractors when I haul with the dump trailer. I borrow my neighbors tractor and leave it hooked to the dump trailer, then I use mine to load it and spread at the other end. Otherwise it takes forever taking the ballast off the back and hooking up to the trailer each load.

Would it be quicker to just shuttle with the tractor, or is the distance too great?
ac
 
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Would it be quicker to just shuttle with the tractor, or is the distance too great?
ac
It's usually about 300 yards so a little too far. Also when I drive with that much weight in bucket I really sink into the ground with front wheels. The dump trailer distributes the load over 4 large tires and probably throws 500-1000# on the tongue that gets carried by the rear wheels on the tractor.
 
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It's usually about 300 yards so a little too far. Also when I drive with that much weight in bucket I really sink into the ground with front wheels. The dump trailer distributes the load over 4 large tires and probably throws 500-1000# on the tongue that gets carried by the rear wheels on the tractor.

With the exception of ground damage, that distance is probably right around the break even point I would bet.

Either way, once you get the hang of it I think a GST tractor is pretty neat. I see you are used to an HST, coming from that you may or may not prefer the HST.

I used my L45 w/ the HST+ all day today doing a lot of snow moving and other chores around the property. All FEL based tasks since I didn't dig a hole with the hoe. It is definitely easier to use the HST. That doesn't make it FASTER.
 

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