buickanddeere
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Wal Mart is awesome! What are you? A snob?
Depends on your moral standards
Wal Mart is awesome! What are you? A snob?
These come in 2000# containers and I can't imagine needing more than 5 - so that's 10,000# for grapes and another 500# for the plastic container they come in and the pallets they sit on.
Depends on your moral standards
It takes a TON of grapes to make a bottle of wine. Well, not literally - but it takes a whole bunch (and then some). Ain't no added water in wine - that's all grape juice...You must make a he!! of a lot of wine! :drink: :licking:
Did a bit more thinking about what I will be towing and what the heaviest load might be. The tractors are the first things that come to mind - they top out at an estimated 8500 lbs (M7040 at 5470#, the FEL and Bucket add an additional 2000#, and I tossed in an additional 1000# for weighted tires). I'd also like to be able to make runs out to west Texas to pick up grapes if needed. These come in 2000# containers and I can't imagine needing more than 5 - so that's 10,000# for grapes and another 500# for the plastic container they come in and the pallets they sit on. Beyond that - I can't think of anything I'd need to haul on a "regular" basis that would be heavier than these two items.
With that in mind I can "downsize" the trailer to a 12000 GVWR rating (two 6000# axles) and not worry about the numbers. I'll be at 24300# total and well under the limit for needing a CDL. The heaviest load would be the grapes at 10500# and that's 87.5% of the trailers capacity. I'd prefer to be at 80% max, but I can easily put one of the containers in the bed of the truck and reduce the load on the trailer itself. BTW - the payload capacity on the RAM 3500 DRW is 4550# - on a SRW 2500 or 3500 it's only 2270#. I really like the extra payload capacity on the DRW! It's gonna come in handy on "grape runs".
Now - if I go with a GN trailer, then I'll lose the room in the bed of the truck - but, I'm still under the capacity of the trailer on a grape run if I go full up - and chances are I wouldn't need 5 containers anyway...
Don't forget 10-20% of that weight will be on the truck.That doesn't make much sense...the trailers capacity is the GVWR - the weight of the trailer itself. The 10,500# of grapes + the weight of the trailer is going to be more then 12,000#. It just doesn't add up...
You're correct - I didn't factor in the weight of the trailer at 2560# (Big Tex Heavy Duty Pipe Tandem Axle 18'), so that leaves me with a carry capacity of 9440#, which would cover 4 tons of grapes easy. Could still throw the fifth one in the bed...That doesn't make much sense...the trailers capacity is the GVWR - the weight of the trailer itself. The 10,500# of grapes + the weight of the trailer is going to be more then 12,000#. It just doesn't add up...
You're correct - I didn't factor in the weight of the trailer at 2560# (Big Tex Heavy Duty Pipe Tandem Axle 18'), so that leaves me with a carry capacity of 9440#, which would cover 4 tons of grapes easy. Could still throw the fifth one in the bed...
Good point... Trailer might even be lighter... None of this is on my "need to do now" list. I'm just looking for additional uses for the truck (and trying to learn all of the in's and out's of hauling).So when they load the pallets from the back cause the pipe-top rails will the 18ft be enough trailer?
I like my carhauler cause I can load from sides and the extra width...
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Did a bit more thinking about what I will be towing and what the heaviest load might be. The tractors are the first things that come to mind - they top out at an estimated 8500 lbs (M7040 at 5470#, the FEL and Bucket add an additional 2000#, and I tossed in an additional 1000# for weighted tires). I'd also like to be able to make runs out to west Texas to pick up grapes if needed. These come in 2000# containers and I can't imagine needing more than 5 - so that's 10,000# for grapes and another 500# for the plastic container they come in and the pallets they sit on. Beyond that - I can't think of anything I'd need to haul on a "regular" basis that would be heavier than these two items.
With that in mind I can "downsize" the trailer to a 12000 GVWR rating (two 6000# axles) and not worry about the numbers. I'll be at 24300# total and well under the limit for needing a CDL. The heaviest load would be the grapes at 10500# and that's 87.5% of the trailers capacity. I'd prefer to be at 80% max, but I can easily put one of the containers in the bed of the truck and reduce the load on the trailer itself. BTW - the payload capacity on the RAM 3500 DRW is 4550# - on a SRW 2500 or 3500 it's only 2270#. I really like the extra payload capacity on the DRW! It's gonna come in handy on "grape runs".
Now - if I go with a GN trailer, then I'll lose the room in the bed of the truck - but, I'm still under the capacity of the trailer on a grape run if I go full up - and chances are I wouldn't need 5 containers anyway...