2014 Toyota Tundra first look

[RollingsFarms]

First Look: 2014 Toyota Tundra - PickupTrucks.com News

 

[bdeboer]

I didn't see anything about fuel mileage improvements? Not that I expect a truck to improve much. Lol

 

[Diamondpilot]

I like the Tundra but am not impressed. The old truck was ok but had a few short comings. They had a chacnce to really do something here with the chassis and motors. I guess they are trying to be like GM now that they took over that #1 sales spot and just keep doing the same old thing. Just look at the press release on the next model.

My hats off to Ford and Dodge for having the guts to try new things and actually improve what they already have.

I expected more from Toyota.

Chris

 

[hodge]

Personally, I've never liked the architecture of the Tundra. The width and heighth of the truck isn't in balance to the ground clearance and tire size. I prefer a truck that has a higher stance to it. That is just me, and I am not bashing on Toyota- I know that they build a fine truck- but I wouldn't put my money in one.

 

[bdeboer]

My hats off to Ford and Dodge for having the guts to try new things and actually improve what they already have.
Chris

When the competition has the EcoBoost or the 8 speed, you would think their marketing guys would demand something?

 

[Tomtint]

Looks like they took the year off.

 

[Diamondpilot]

When the competition has the EcoBoost or the 8 speed, you would think their marketing guys would demand something?

Yep, that was what I was eluding to in my post. Dodge also did coil springs on the rear axle. Not a fan of that personally but they are being innovative.

Chris

 

[RollingsFarms]

Is it just me or did Toyota copy the front end of the Tacoma?

 

[rockshaft]

I agree with whats been said. I've always been a yota fan (had a few in the past), but they seem to be resting on their laurels.

 

[RollingsFarms]

I agree with whats been said. I've always been a yota fan (had a few in the past), but they seem to be resting on their laurels.

They can afford to rest on them in the Tacoma segment....for now anyways. They can't use that same strategy in the full size market. Knowing Toyota though they usually refresh the body and interior on a truck and then a couple years later replace the engine. They did this same type of redesign in the Tacoma for 2012 but kept the same engines.

 

[rockshaft]

Here's another read:

DETROIT: Humbled Toyota rolls out new Tundra pickup | Business | ADN.com

Should be interesting to see what the redesigned Titan will look like, a Quadrasteer-like system would be interesting.

 

[Reyer Farms]

Yeah they have been some interesting rumors here about the Titan. Quad steer I have not heard though. I think it will be a great market no matter what flavor you choose. I like the tundra, but the frame is my BIG hang up. I like welds, make me all warm and fuzzy.

 

[rockshaft]

Excuse my ignorance, are you referring to hydroforming and/or corrosion issues? I previously owned a tacoma and a precursor, and my dad owns a '10 tundra. I have a '06 titan

 

[Scooby074]

Looks good. Particularly the interior.

But where is the diesel? In the light of "ecoboost" a high mpg diesel that still gave good mileage when towing (unlike the ecoboost) would be a huge seller. And what about a 3/4 Ton?

All and all, not a bad looking rig, but Toyota missed the chance to make a game changer.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Looks good. Particularly the interior.

But where is the diesel? In the light of "ecoboost" a high mpg diesel that still gave good mileage when towing (unlike the ecoboost) would be a huge seller. And what about a 3/4 Ton?

All and all, not a bad looking rig, but Toyota missed the chance to make a game changer.

Not sure where you get the Eco Boost does not do good towing. I did a comparison a year ago againstbmy fathers 4x4 eco 3.73 gears and my 4x4 Titan. Its on this site. The Eco got something like nearly 13mpg versus my 9mpg pulling identical tandem enclosed box trailers over 200 miles.

Chris

 

[Reyer Farms]

Excuse my ignorance, are you referring to hydroforming and/or corrosion issues? I previously owned a tacoma and a precursor, and my dad owns a '10 tundra. I have a '06 titan

I just can't get my head wrapped around the whole triple tech frame. I like hydro formed, channels and full box. I like welds, not very fond of Toyota use of riveted sections to weld sections. I just think of things I see bolted and then welded. Do one or the other no need for both, shows lack of confidence in workmanship. May be the best thing since sliced bread, I just cannot see an advantage to the user. It did pull a space shuttle, and that's pretty cool. I think that all in all there is not a bad truck on the market.

 

[rockshaft]

Thanks Reyer, i didn't realize.

"Toyota created something called a Triple Tech frame, which incorporates three unique sections. The front third is boxed for strength to carry the engine and provide frontal crash protection. The middle, where the cabin sits, is a rolled C-channel with top and bottom flanged reinforcements for strength but also to provide better ride comfort. The rear section is an open C-channel for maximum bending resistance and strength to carry heavy loads."

Why is an open C channel more bend resistant than box?

 

[Dmace]

Luckily I wasn't expecting much from Toyota, with the millions they're spending in recalls, no wonder they can't afford a new design.

Not sure where you get the Eco Boost does not do good towing. I did a comparison a year ago againstbmy fathers 4x4 eco 3.73 gears and my 4x4 Titan. Its on this site. The Eco got something like nearly 13mpg versus my 9mpg pulling identical tandem enclosed box trailers over 200 miles.
Chris

Try comparing it to a truck that gets more than 14mpg empty. :laughing:
The Ecoboost gets better fuel mileage than the weakest and most thirsty V8 truck engine on the market. Congratulations! :laughing:

 

[Reyer Farms]

Beats me! Seems rolled channel would be easy to run out to the end???

 

[rockshaft]

My Titan gets 18mpg unloaded on long runs, ~12mpg pulling ~8000#cargo hauler 5000miles (based on Scangauge and fuel receipts)

The Ecoboost looks good to me- not sure the long term service will be good though.