Why would you suddenly be interested in what you've described as "primitive economy tractors", much less on multiple tractor forums?
Besides, in another thread (that you turned into a flame war) you said "I'm a Massey guy".
Somewhere in upstate NY, an axe is begging to no longer be ground.
GMan,,, I am not going to continue to go around in circles with you. I did not describe the LS tractors as Primitive Economy Tractors. I specifically said in that thread that I had never seen them, and did not know anything about them. ALLLLLLLLLLLL of my commentary on the LS Tractor was directed at the lack of dealerships, the lack of reputation and the questionable resale value and service. I took the opportunity to visit the only two dealers within an hours drive of me, and every single thing I feared was validated. I still have not been able to see the J series, which is the only tractor LS makes that I would be interested in. I did note that the ones I did see were beefy as h ell. They are no worse then any of the Massey 1500 and 1600 series. Whats really holding these tractors back is exactly what I have expressed. As it turns out, the only two comments on the J series has been less then encouraging. As I said, I WANT to like this tractor. It's a perfect size from what I can tell.
I didn't start a flame war. People LIKE YOU came after me. And you are still misrepresenting what I said. I said the MAHINDRA was an economy tractor and Primitive. And I stand by that. The G Series LS is certainly ECONOMY. I am a Massey guy. I like them very much. But I also said on multiple occasions that Nobody makes a terrible tractor anymore. They are all just different flavors. The only one with an mental problem in this thread is you. So please, let's not bomb this with pointless banter. You made your point, let's move on now.
And those pictures on Craigs List are much better then the 4 on the stupid LS tractor site. Though I would not have thought to look at Michigan Craigslist. I did find 14 good ones and a short vid on Tractorhouse.com