How NOT to Install Dry Cylinder Sleeves

MasseyWV · Mar 13, 2013

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mpham · Mar 13, 2013

I wonder if the pistons will even fit in the bore? If it ever runs I bet it wont last long.

alchemysa · Mar 13, 2013

I've never had to do liners but I wonder if putting them in the freezer for a while would have made things easier.

Baby Grand · Mar 13, 2013

alchemysa said:
I've never had to do liners but I wonder if putting them in the freezer for a while would have made things easier.

... and the block in an oven set at WARM.

Or you could just smack it with a sledge hammer and a plank.
Make sure you get that liner in there all crooked before you commence to wail on it.
It's seeing things like this that makes me dread buying anything used.

90cummins · Mar 13, 2013

WOW!! So obvious it was not lined up.
Yup, chilling the liners in a freezer & heating the block with a couple heat lamps would allow them to fall in.
I agree with Baby Grand! If someone tells you they rebuilt it, or it looks like it was repaired, BEWARE.
90cummins

gaspumpcity · Mar 13, 2013

Never hammer on liner pacs! Are the pacs oversize?

MasseyWV · Mar 13, 2013

Watching the video made me cringe, with every blow of the hammer I just knew that cylinder was being bent to heII.

Bladehauler · Mar 13, 2013

Holy Crap !! I cant watch this abuse anymore ..........

I have had great luck with dry-ice . liner , sleaves .etc.

But a SLEDGEHAMMER ??????? The ONLY place for a Sledgehammer is on this IDIOTS HEAD !!!!!

Tig · Mar 13, 2013

Couldn't watch past 1:28
Probably because I'm afraid it will bring back memories of things I've witnessed or done.

ruffdog · Mar 13, 2013

I start my nails straighter than that! OMG!

kf4uda · Mar 13, 2013

Several years back as a teenager, I was helping my Dad rebuild the 861 Ford that I now have. He told me to take the new sleeves and put them in the freezer. I looked at him like he was crazy. Turns out he knew exactly what he was doing and I got to learn how to put dry sleeves in. That video makes me hurt!

Don87 · Mar 13, 2013

Head gasket should seal well also with all the wood chips under the sleeve ledge.

I was LMAO, as I was watching the video.

crazyal · Mar 14, 2013

So what sort of cheap ******* would send their block off to get machined for new liners but not have the machine shop install the liners since all he had to do the job was a block of wood and a hammer? That's like buying nice tires for your truck and then not spending the extra $10 to install and balance each one because you've got two slotted screw drivers at the house.

mjncad · Mar 14, 2013

Maybe he works for the Elbonian NASCAR team.

gaspumpcity · Mar 14, 2013

I bet the counter bores are out of spec too!

MasseyWV · Mar 17, 2013

crazyal said:
So what sort of cheap ******* would send their block off to get machined for new liners but not have the machine shop install the liners since all he had to do the job was a block of wood and a hammer? That's like buying nice tires for your truck and then not spending the extra $10 to install and balance each one because you've got two slotted screw drivers at the house.

Some people will do anything to save a buck. :confused2:

crazyal · Mar 17, 2013

MasseyWV said:
Some people will do anything to save a buck. :confused2:

Or be a youtube star. Maybe his idea of having it machined to fit the top of the liner was him with a 4 1/2" grinder.

90cummins · Mar 17, 2013

Perhaps it was not about being cheep, but that he actually he felt he knew how to properly install them!
Hope it works for his sake!!
90cummins

azrancher · Mar 20, 2013

The question I have... Does heating the block make the hole larger... or smaller, i.e. metal expands when hot. So should you not use a CO2 fire extinguisher on both the block and sleaves?

Rancher

Car Doc · Mar 20, 2013

Yeah that's not good no lube or heat or anything.:laughing: I have sleeved lots of engines and my best trick besides properly boring the block for a .001-.0015" press fit (room temp measurement) is take a topless pop can with alcohol and set it in the bottom of the bore and below it and light it so that would heat it evenly.

I would freeze my liners and lightly oil them with motor oil just before installing them in the block and lightly tap them in with a board and that worked great did that for years. You still have to finish size bore/hone all of them but this way there is minimal distortion and also what this guy left out is they have to be face cut flush with the block with the boring bar after installation.