Retirement savings ....Yikes !

   / Retirement savings ....Yikes ! #531  
This!

This is BS
or
This is not bad
or
He really should change his name to Windbag

well, BrokerMike, don't keep me in suspense any longer.
Since you posted afterwards I know you didn't just get in the first word
and keel over...thank goodness.

Hint please... :D
 
   / Retirement savings ....Yikes ! #532  
Nope, I was just concurring with what you had posted. No need to say something that was said well all over again.

I wish everyone well however they choose to make a living (legally and respectfully). I just hope that everyone is dilligent and thoughtful about what they do and that they do, in fact, plan for the future. It will be here much faster than you think!
 
   / Retirement savings ....Yikes ! #533  
if someone was under forty today and needed diversity, and had a twenty+ year time frame, I'd suggest they buy undervalued real estate tomorrow.
Over forty, I'd focus on income streams and you can accomplish that with rental units, but you sure need to think it through first.
Being a landlord is not for everyone. But buying some vacant land in the right place and letting it appreciate through the next hoped for real estate
boom, could be a nice diversifier for most people's total investment portfolio. But remember, folk tend to get attached to land, so you have to be willing to
give it up someday if you want it to "count".

I took a swing at talking my personal comptroller (AKA wife) into buying some bare land on the edge of an area that is bound to expand in the future. No power there yet, dirt road, so it's reasonably cheap. No dice. Do you do marriage counseling as a sideline? :laughing:
 
   / Retirement savings ....Yikes ! #534  
Headline is a bit disingenuous, but anyways...it's coming. The gov't is here to tell you how much you should have for retirement and if you go over...well...

Obama
 
   / Retirement savings ....Yikes ! #535  
Headline is a bit disingenuous, but anyways...it's coming. The gov't is here to tell you how much you should have for retirement and if you go over...well...

Obama

If you go over ($9 million?), it has served it's original purpose envisioned by congress for tax-advantaged savings for any normal retirement. Beyond that, it is just a tax dodge, which has nothing to do with the original intent of IRA's. I don't see the problem.
 
   / Retirement savings ....Yikes ! #536  
I thought the idea of a retirement was to put away money earned so as to provide for a similar lifestyle in retirement...

The whole idea of what a person needs or does not need is offensive...

One open heart surgery can cost a million dollars...
 
   / Retirement savings ....Yikes ! #537  
I thought the idea of a retirement was to put away money earned so as to provide for a similar lifestyle in retirement...

The whole idea of what a person needs or does not need is offensive...

One open heart surgery can cost a million dollars...

It doesn't say saving for retirement will be limited or capped, or anything about how much anyone should have or not have. It says the amount that will get favorable IRA tax treatment would be capped.

The tax advantages of an IRA or similar retirement savings account are driven by government policy to encourage retirement savings, not to provide an unintended tax haven for ultra-wealthy individuals.
 
   / Retirement savings ....Yikes ! #538  
There not doing a good job because the tax advantages are not enough to entice me... could be just a combination of bad experience and timing.

I decided long ago to stick to income property and so far, so good.

A friend has a different take... he has been buying gold and silver US coins for 40 years... just bullion type... nothing fancy... he is very pleased with his decision even with the market gyrations...

I guess we are similar... we both desire something Real and not a line item on a computer computer spread sheet...

I have nothing against those that choose to put their future in the hands of Wall Street... just no one in my family has ever done it and we have done ok so far...
 
   / Retirement savings ....Yikes ! #539  
Ultrrunner: It's too late now probably, but you may have been able to combine your real estate investments with an IRA or similar account.

5 Investments You Can't Hold In An IRA/Qualified Plan
"For millions of Americans, the freedom offered by self-directed, traditional and Roth IRAs can be very appealing. These accounts are not limited to the narrow selection of investments that are typically offered inside employer-sponsored retirement plans, such as 401(k) or 403(b) plans. Almost any type of investment is permissible inside an IRA including stocks, bonds, mutual funds, annuities, unit investment trusts (UITs), exchange-traded funds (ETFs) and even real estate."


These are the real estate restrictions:

Real Estate
Contrary to what many believe, it is possible to hold real estate directly inside an IRA. However, the IRA owner cannot benefit directly from the property in any sense, such as by receiving rental income or living in the property. It is therefore not possible to purchase one's house with IRA or retirement plan money. Many IRA custodians cannot facilitate the direct ownership of real estate or oil and gas interests, and those that do often charge annual administration fees that are much higher than normal. For more see House Your Retirement With Self-Directed Real Estate IRAs.)
 
   / Retirement savings ....Yikes ! #540  
In spite of the risk for getting criticism from the do-it-yourselfers, I offer you my own direct experience wih an I.R.A. . I worked almost 40 years for a major auto firm, saved quite a bit of money in a savings account, bought a house to fix up, sold it and moved to a large acreage farm out in the country. I always maxed out my IRA contributions and expected a decent pension from the Company. Well, they nearly went bankrupt, they offered me an early out and I took it at age 62. I also signed up for Social Security right away, in spite of holding out for longer would have gotten me more per month. When they transferred out of their own pension plan to a Prudential run 'pension' type payment, I took the lump-sum option instead, in spite of the fact that my parents lived into their mid 90s and the company said 79 1/2 was more likely the case for me.

What has saved my health, welfare and well-being and peace of mind was direct management of my IRA and other accounts thru a Morgan Stanley Smith Barney account manager. 5 years before my leaving the company, they reviewd my situation, I had them take control and my account bloomed (as in doubled). When the lump sum came along, they had anticipated its offering and had bought a few S.P.I.A.s at 5% to 8% interest with just a thousand or so in each one. Then they added the portions of the lump sum to them when the check came and they are fueling my happy retirement. Even though I am drawing off 4% or so per mounth on the average, I am making quite a bit more per month because the SPIAs are doing better than 4% and my other stock, bond, annuity and long term care accounts accounts are still doing even better than that. The only danger I am in is cracking into a higher tax bracket.

My point is that I came from a simple family who saved money only in a bank account. Stocks, bonds, and other financial weapons were a foreign language to me. When, on a whim, I accepted their free review, I got professional help with: reallocation of money at various risk levels that I chose, made a will via a Living Trust, invested inheritance, got relief from the retirement blues, and experienced a seamless transition into retirement. My bank account accepts the money they have triggered, I gave myself a raise, can get cash at any time via checks on the account, have a checking account with a level control on it ( I set a level, when I withdraw or transfer to lower the level, it automatically refills), and I just don't go to work anymore but get paid the same. Also, in retirement, you don't need the same amount of money coming in every month. Its only when property taxes are due, insurance payments are due, you go to an auction and buy a vintage antique something, get onto eBay or Craigslist and buy something cool, or pay the monthly Costco AMEX card account, do you need money.

If I was stupid enough to buy a new car, I can get the cash wired the next day via a sell-off that 'they' handle for me. You know, I don't care whether they make a little money from me for this service, all my needs are taken care off, I live inexpensively, buy clothes from Salvation Army, eat healthy, put some hay up for sale every year, and pay my taxes on April 14th.

For those who are afraid of making mistakes on your own, I recommend getting a professional money manager. Yes the 'market' took a dip and my account fell 30%, but 1 1/2 years later its all made back up and about 20% ahead as of today. I didn't mention my divorce, this was also aid by my Fund manager. To prevent my ex-from eating up my IRA for her special needs mental health care, they set up and managed her separate account for us so that when she turns 65, her care will be just as good and Medicare will assiste her.

OK, now tell me what I've done wrong or coulda/shoulda done instead...
 

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