Neighbor called the Law on me for shooting

[J F]

Yeah, that would *suck*.

 

[J F]

Good illustration.

 

[Rock knocker]

So...you HAVE TO identify yourself, ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY? If asked, of course.

You do, I don't have to
Stop and identify statutes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[J F]

But, do you have a basement?

 

[two_bit_score]

No, you missed the point, if an Officer finds there is a warrant, it is their job to make the arrest.

I agreed with your second point and will only go along with a search/response consistent with Terry v Ohio etc.

It's the etc that gets dangerous.

If I haven't done anything I think I'll just cooperate and identify myself. Make a complaint about it later if I feel it was improper to be asked.

Of course, if I've done something, that's a different story.

 

[TripleR]

It's the etc that gets dangerous.

If I haven't done anything I think I'll just cooperate and identify myself. Make a complaint about it later if I feel it was improper to be asked.

Of course, if I've done something, that's a different story.

Terry and Hibel set the bar pretty low, so identifying myself is not a big concern, anything beyond that is a whole other issue.

I am a pretty big supporter of Law Enforcement, but at various times in my career, I had to stop undue intrusions outside Terry by providing my badge and ID which I should not have had to do, some Officers will go on fishing expeditions and exceed their legal authority, space prohibits elaboration.

 

[Midniteoyl]

Terry and Hibel set the bar pretty low, so identifying myself is not a big concern, anything beyond that is a whole other issue.

I am a pretty big supporter of Law Enforcement, but at various times in my career, I had to stop undue intrusions outside Terry by providing my badge and ID which I should not have had to do, some Officers will go on fishing expeditions and exceed their legal authority, space prohibits elaboration.

Had a county sheriff's deputy cross that line once.. Next time he showed up, State Police, an AG, and my lawyer were all waiting. Wasnt pretty

 

[Rock knocker]

Just something for thought, you are attacked and dial 911, before Police arrive you are subdued and tied up in the basement. Your attacker meets the Officer and assures him/her all is OK, you are the one who called. Officer Friendly goes about his way leaving you to your fate.

That is something completely different. In one hand we are discussing the legalities of police asking for ID with an articulatable and reasonable thought that the person in question may be a suspect in a crime. In the above, there is clearly a reasonable thought that the person answering the door may be a victim or suspect of a crime.

Two different things

 

[TripleR]

That is something completely different. In one hand we are discussing the legalities of police asking for ID with an articulatable and reasonable thought that the person in question may be a suspect in a crime. In the above, there is clearly a reasonable thought that the person answering the door may be a victim or suspect of a crime.

Two different things

I don't see the contradiction. I merely put something out for thought.

 

[two_bit_score]

That is something completely different. In one hand we are discussing the legalities of police asking for ID with an articulatable and reasonable thought that the person in question may be a suspect in a crime. In the above, there is clearly a reasonable thought that the person answering the door may be a victim or suspect of a crime.

Two different things

How would the officer know the difference if he didn't ID the person who answered the door?