Amish accident

   / Amish accident #11  
I also live near some Amish, and they are actually pretty good about having lighting on after dark. I've noticed a car battery that powers the lights. We also had an accident near us, a younger girl was driving the buggy and it got away from her at a corner and a car hit it. I think only the horse was hurt.

In PA, it was mandated that the buggies had to have lighting of some sort. The Amish were against that, but they do following the law. All buggies are required to have SMV reflectors as well.
There were a number of buggy/car accidents when we lived in PA. This was partly due to the number of blind corners and hills in south central PA...mostly due to car drivers not paying attention to their driving in rural areas.
 
   / Amish accident #12  
I just reread the reports and one accident happened at 8:39AM and the other at 3:30PM. Both are broad daylight accidents. No need to have your lights on then, just pay attention.
 
   / Amish accident #13  
I live close to a large community of them too and they piss me off. They are always out after dark or before daylight without a single piece of lighting on their slow moving buggies and wagons. All they have to do is get off their bible thumping principles and put on some glow in the dark tape or proper lights to let people in cars going the speed limit know that they are in the middle of the lane. So many needless deaths of young people and everybody simpathises with the ones that cause the accidents. Btw I don't believe it can be called an accident when somebody does something deliberate to cause it.

I think you need to move back to the city or suburbs...
 
   / Amish accident #14  
Before I retired as an insurance adjuster, the couple of accidents I handled one with a broken arm and one broken leg. Neither one of them wanted any $$$ from the insurance co. They said it was an act of god, and it wouldn't be right to accept anything.
 
   / Amish accident #15  
I don't believe in it either , but that is where the money is . There is no respect anymore .
 
   / Amish accident #16  
The two accidents above were at around 3:30 pm, and 8:26 am, I think. I don't know if there was fog, or other adverse conditions, but it should have been daylight.

None of the deer around here have flashing lights, or reflective tape on them. A person needs to drive considering road conditions and potential hazards.

Nonetheless, I would agree that one should exercise prudence in adding lighting, slow moving triangles, reflective tape, and etc to the carriages. Something other than black paint?

The Amish aren't Indians. I don't see why the local government can't legislate proper lighting requirements. Then put some police out and start ticketing, and/or impounding vehicles with improper lighting and marking. Looking at the Web for "Amish Buggy", at least half of the photos show what appear to be lights, and sometimes other markers.

I would think the governments could invest more in making adequate shoulders on the road, but I can't imagine any "God" demanding that one maneuver a black painted buggy at night on a busy road with no lights. And if they don't like electricity, there is always kerosene or carbide. But, the new bicycle generators are pretty spectacular too.
 
   / Amish accident #17  
We deal with them every day around here Northern NY.Average about one accident every four months.
Ours are the Old Order Amish...only light is a small red kerosene lantern,totaly black buggy.No SMV signs,they refuse to use them.
 
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We deal with them every day around here Northern NY.Average about one accident every four months.
Ours are the Old Order Amish...only light is a small red kerosene lantern,totaly black buggy.No SMV signs,they refuse to use them.

No lights, SMV or lantern here. They are on the road early in the morning before the sun comes up and after dark. This is last two major accidents. We average one every other month. I have never heard of them having a accident in the dark though always in daylight hours on state highways.
 
   / Amish accident #19  
I was taught in driver's ed that you don't overdrive your line of sight, be it daylight or dark. Here in Calhoun County Florida, we don't have any Amish, but we do have a lot of their Mennonite cousins. They lead a simple life, but do use cars, trucks and tractors.
 
   / Amish accident #20  
It's sad that I laughed at that last bit... especially as the insurance companys are advertising 'new for old'. So if they delivered a new foal, it'd be a couple of years before it would even start pulling a buggy.

My immediate family lived in Kitchener, Ontario, until recently. BIG Mennonite country and the buggies were/are a common sight everywhere. I don't recall there ever being an accident recorded in all the years they lived there.

The only "accident" I recall out that way was the woman in a buggy that was hit in the face by a thrown beer bottle a number of years back. Apparently somebody took issue with them being on the road.

Anybody that needs/wants to blast along all the time at 70mph+ should stick to the interstate. Many secondary rural roads are inherently dangerous - narrow, with bad sight lines.

Many of the big farms around me mostly won't move large Ag implements after dark - but they do that by choice, the law in Ontario only requires an SMV sign on a towed implement. They often move a tractor alone after dark, but all the new big ones come stock with plenty of lighting - locally a rotating beacon is often mounted on the top of the cab, but again, that is not a legal requirement AFAIK. Farmers are usually pretty practical, what's $100 or so for a beacon, on a $250k+ tractor ?

I pulled up behind an enclosed buggy out Kitchener way, guy had an SMV sign on it, and had very professionally installed red LEDs all the way around the perimeter to highlight the sign. I like that combination of olde/new.

"Modern" vehicles break down all the time, you can easily come around a curve on a rural road at night, and encounter a dead vehicle, or Jim-Bob's truck at the side of the road, "checking" for deer.

GTA cop was killed on the way to work in his own car. He slammed into a construction trailer parked at the side of the road, I think it was an empty flat deck. That happened within the Greater Toronto Area, not rural as I recall.

I know a guy that wrote off a 1 ton van, and just about himself too, pulling into the right hand of 2 lanes to pass a big truck in the city. Slammed into a loaded 40 ton construction dumpster that was sitting in that lane; his view was blocked by the bigger truck.

City or country, blindly (literally) assuming that the road is empty can have consequences, some being fatal.

I'm not a big R religious person, so when I look at the groups discussed here one thing I note is that they take the trouble to produce good quality food to eat, and get plenty of exercise. Never a bad strategy....

Rgds, D.
 

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