XR4046HC

classacthollow · Aug 10, 2013

I just saw this advertised:

LS XR4046HC is a fully loaded, feature packed compact cab tractor at an affordable price. 46 Horsepower, 4 Cylinder Diesel Mitsubishi Engine Easy to use Hydrostatic (automatic) Transmission 35.5 HP Independent PTO Deluxe cabin with Heating and A/C, CD Player, full suspension seat Ergonomically designed for operator comfort Includes Quick Attach Loader & 60" Bucket (2,500 lbs lift capacity @ pivot pins) 2 Pairs Remote Control Valves
$29,980.

this has got me chomping at the bit, I also got some cab pics and it looks really well set up..

Poopdeck Pappy · Aug 10, 2013

It is very well set up. I test drove one. Liked it a lot. And it's a heavy little bugger too. 4,334 pounds (cab model). My only hesitation is the PTO hp. I'd like to have 40 or more (although the Kioti DK50SE HST only has 2 more PTO hp, so they're close). Decisions, decisions.

But it's not a Mitsubishi engine. It's a Shibaura Tier 4. I don't think the Shibaura is a step down from the Mitsubishi engine. I know a lot of the New Holland tractor guys rave about their Shibaura New Hollands.

classacthollow · Aug 10, 2013

the one I just read about claimed it was a Mitsubishi engine. I'm going to do some more research, I'm about ready to buy and I went and looked at the Mahindra the other day and their control layout and cab setup is terrible, no planning just bolted stuff where-ever they could make it fit. this new LS is beautiful and smooth ergonomics, even the rear remote levers are right up by the bucket control.

Poopdeck Pappy · Aug 10, 2013

The dealer I'm working with told me it was a Shibaura. And the engine model no. on the LS website and the brochure the dealer gave me is "N844L-F", which is a Shibaura model. So, I'm pretty sure it's a Shibaura Tier 4 engine. That's not an issue for me because it appears that Shibaura makes really good engines.

I agree with you on the ergonomics. I've been tempted by the Mahindra 6010 because of the extra HP, but I don't like the ergos as much as the LS. It's been a while since I drove the LS. I need to go back and drive it again.

eagle107 · Aug 11, 2013

Yeah, that is a Shibuara engine. The N844L is the same engine used in the New Holland's Boomer 3045/TC45D compact tractors. I have to say that I am impressed with the new XR4046HC. I like the Shibaura engine over the Mitsubishi. I had Ford/New Holland compact tractors since the 1980s with Shibaura engines and those engines always ran great in the tractors. I would say the Shibaura is almost as good as the Yanmar engines.

classacthollow · Aug 11, 2013

Thanks Guys, I just looked on the brochure and it does list it as the N844L- the dealer that said it was a Mitsubishi was not correct. Now if I could just find one to check out, I had buying things sight unseen.

TSO · Aug 12, 2013

I've got a 3cyl Shibaura in my Hustler ZTR, and had one in my previous Ford CM272 commercial mower. ..

No complaints, Shibaura makes fine engines. Also no complaints with my Mitsubishi 4cyl in THIS tractor.

ProdaddyTX · Aug 12, 2013

Yes, it's a Shibaura engine.... 4 cylinder, normal aspiration, with Shibaura's regenerative exhaust side answer to clean emissions.... no urea or other add-in fluids required. In terms of moving parts these are actually mechanically simpler than the Mitsubishis they're replacing, and feature a "captured" crank design (solid 1 piece block, crank is inserted through the end) and superior "positive" lubrication to everything that needs it. We expect these engines to be really robust and long lasting. There are some more pictures here ( LS XR4046HC by RCO Tractor, "Tier 4" Engine, Air-Conditioned Cab ), and some details that need to be corrected on that page..... the rear work lights, stereo, and rear wiper/washer are extra-cost dealer installed options. Also, LS now has them up on their website....
LS Tractor USA

I'll do my best to answer questions anybody has about them. We're currently sold out of the XR4000's and XU5000's, but ordering more this week... have the XR3037HC sitting here now. These new models are being VERY well received....Things just keep getting better and better with LS.

Jhiphop72 · Aug 13, 2013

ProdaddyTX said:
Yes, it's a Shibaura engine.... 4 cylinder, normal aspiration, with Shibaura's regenerative exhaust side answer to clean emissions.... no urea or other add-in fluids required. In terms of moving parts these are actually mechanically simpler than the Mitsubishis they're replacing, and feature a "captured" crank design (solid 1 piece block, crank is inserted through the end) and superior "positive" lubrication to everything that needs it. We expect these engines to be really robust and long lasting. There are some more pictures here ( LS XR4046HC by RCO Tractor, "Tier 4" Engine, Air-Conditioned Cab ), and some details that need to be corrected on that page..... the rear work lights, stereo, and rear wiper/washer are extra-cost dealer installed options. Also, LS now has them up on their website....
LS Tractor USA

I'll do my best to answer questions anybody has about them. We're currently sold out of the XR4000's and XU5000's, but ordering more this week... have the XR3037HC sitting here now. These new models are being VERY well received....Things just keep getting better and better with LS.

Glad to know there are no add in fluids. How is the fuel consuption compared to the Mitsubishi's they are replacing?

TSO · Aug 13, 2013

Looks like the xr4046 layout is the same as the current r4047, at least the driver's column and levers anyhow. Are they making them WITHOUT the cabs? I noticed on RCO's website, they only show cab versions for the 30-46hp models...

Regardless, looks like a nice tractor. I'll be curious to see which ones New Holland uses for their line. Since they've always been with Shibaura, it doesn't surprise me to see LS using Shibaura now instead of the Mitsubishi.

RKJeepXJ · Aug 13, 2013

My dealer told me a couple weeks ago, as I was purchasing my R4047H, that the CNH contract with LS ends in the next few months and CNH is going back with Shibaura for ALL their compact tractor manufacturing. It seems that LS coming to US and selling direct really put a thorn in CNH's side. BUT, LS is okay with that because they came to US directly because they felt they could move more product themselves instead of going thruogh CNH and their mark-up prices. I tend to agree with LS on this one, I priced a Boomer 50 with the same options as my 4047 and it was $6k more money, CNH has to be kidding to think that's going to get them any sales.

Poopdeck Pappy · Aug 13, 2013

Yes, they do make them without cabs.

Gary Fowler · Aug 14, 2013

RKJeepXJ said:
My dealer told me a couple weeks ago, as I was purchasing my R4047H, that the CNH contract with LS ends in the next few months and CNH is going back with Shibaura for ALL their compact tractor manufacturing. It seems that LS coming to US and selling direct really put a thorn in CNH's side. BUT, LS is okay with that because they came to US directly because they felt they could move more product themselves instead of going thruogh CNH and their mark-up prices. I tend to agree with LS on this one, I priced a Boomer 50 with the same options as my 4047 and it was $6k more money, CNH has to be kidding to think that's going to get them any sales.

Folks on TBN are always stating that parts availability is slow on any brand other than major brand names, well My brother in law is waiting over 9 days and counting for a hydraulic oil filter housing attachment plate (ran a tree limb under the tractor and broke off the screw that the filter screws on to)on his 2009 New Holland Boomer. Hard to believe a limb was able to get there and break it since it is nearly impossible to get a wrench in to remove the banjo bolts holding all the lines on. It wouldn't be much problem without the FEL on but it looks like they didn't worry too much about servicing when they designed the FEL brackets.
With the number of folks reporting broken filter housings on TBN, I would think that a dealer would stock that plate for each of the CUT models or at least have one close by.
By the way this model wasn't made by LS.

Guesseral · Aug 14, 2013

I think and someone can correct me if I am wrong that other than the engine and some layout at and for the cab everything else is pretty much the same from last years model to the new year models. Of course they did change the hood some bit I think basically its the same tractor with some tweaks.

GManBart · Aug 14, 2013

They have the specs on the loader listed as being max to full height at the pins 2,638lbs in one place, and 2,500lbs in another. The LL4102 and LL4101 should both be listed as 2,638lbs, but they're wrong in almost all of the places you look.

LS is making a nice tractor, but they could use a little help cleaning up details like that.

rocknrod · Aug 19, 2013

You should buy mine so I can buy that

classacthollow · Aug 27, 2013

I just got a quote for the new LS xr4046hc with the backhoe and a 16" bucket for $32070. what do you all think?

GManBart · Aug 27, 2013

classacthollow said:
I just got a quote for the new LS xr4046hc with the backhoe and a 16" bucket for $32070. what do you all think?

The backhoe should run around $6500 by itself, so that's not bad for a Tier 4 with cab.

Professor Marvel · Jan 24, 2015

I would think you want a 6' bucket. My TC 45 has a 6' bucket and it needs it to cover the tire footprint. I think the TC is pretty much the same tractor as you are talking about.