WOT on diesel tractors

   / WOT on diesel tractors #61  
I think most of us would agree that lugging a motor can be very detrimental in numerous ways. But in the real world for example if you were drilling holes for a new fence line and had the tractor idling at 1200 rpms to use the auger I don't see the need to ramp up to full speed to move up 10 ft to the next hole.
 
   / WOT on diesel tractors #62  
We're probably above the PTO mark when using the loader...gives more bite. But after lowering and curling back, preparing to travel on hard packed ground I knock it down some probably below PTO speed. I don't travel fast and avoid any bouncing if possible.
 
   / WOT on diesel tractors #63  
I addressed the quote. You singled out time, but there are two variables. At lower RPM you have lower pressure, and more time. At higher RPM, you have higher pressure, and less time. Total leakage per rev could be identical in those two scenarios, but the only way to know would be testing the exact configurations over the operating range. For your theory to be an absolute, the pressure would have to be constant....we don't know that it is. You simply can't make an accurate blanket statement that less time equals less leakage.

The relief pressure comment was when I said that minutia such as internal leakage doesn't matter in the real world....the pump typically puts out full pressure, and volume, before WOT, so delivery per revolution isn't always higher at higher RPM settings. So, there isn't necessarily a need to run at WOT.
I said internal leakage was related to pressure and time. Pressure is affected by task load not speed. I did not single out time, merely normalized pressure to the given task - whatever it happens to be.
larry
 
   / WOT on diesel tractors #64  
OK, you win...I guess I didn't feel the need to talk about the volumetric efficiency of the gear pump to make my point. It wasn't part of the discussion. So I was confused by your comments on how it related to the subject at hand.
I do feel that for these types of "******" threads, you have to draw the line somewhere with how far you want to take the technical details, for example, should I have included the compressabilty of the fluid, the accumulator effect of the hoses, and possible reasonance? what about laminar and non laminar flows?
It doesn't mean a **** thing when it comes to refuting some dumb *** trying to say that you need to run your tractor at WOT all the time.
These parameters are in the noise compared to internal leakage. Youre throwing chafe into discussion of pump efficiency vs speed.
larry
 
   / WOT on diesel tractors #65  
These parameters are in the noise compared to internal leakage. Youre throwing chafe into discussion of pump efficiency vs speed.
larry

It doesn't mean a **** thing when it comes to refuting some dumb *** trying to say that you need to run your tractor at WOT all the time.
 
   / WOT on diesel tractors #66  
It doesn't mean a **** thing when it comes to refuting some dumb *** trying to say that you need to run your tractor at WOT all the time.
Whoever said this could you please renew your post. ... Im pretty sure I missed it.
Thanks,
,,,,larry
 
   / WOT on diesel tractors #68  
For tractors with hydrostatic transmission, the pumps are designed VERY SPECIFICALLY to run at their rated RPM input speed, which is full throttle.

.If your doing any kind of work, and you aren't running at full throttle, you shouldn't own a tractor. Why buy something to use it the wrong way?

This is a load of crap
 
   / WOT on diesel tractors #69  
Was this tread specifically posted to throw bad information on the web? If anyone truly believes that running a tractor a WOT all the time is good, than do so, just don't borrow or use anyone else tractor. For the rest of us not insane folks, we will continue our "abusive" tractor practices!
 
   / WOT on diesel tractors #70  
Was this tread specifically posted to throw bad information on the web? If anyone truly believes that running a tractor a WOT all the time is good, than do so, just don't borrow or use anyone else tractor. For the rest of us not insane folks, we will continue our "abusive" tractor practices!

Amen. End of Story.
 

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