Dealers passing old inventory as new

[Coyote machine]

Tractors arent cars.


If the tractor is in NEW condition, ie: paint is fine. rubber too. Low hours, not previously sold, Seat not damaged etc.etc.. Then year of manufacture isnt important. Its more about condition.

Yes and no. Features differ from one year to the next, so if I'm looking at a 2013 brochure from the manufacturer and think because of it, and no information to the contrary from the selling dealer; then I may not get what I am paying for if I'm not informed about the leftover 2010 on the lot, (or whatever year the tractor I'm considering was actually built). Maybe new is the wrong word here - possibly we should substitute current model year, manufactured in the current calendar year.

Maybe tractors, like cars should be required by law to have a sticker on the tractor stating year of manufacture, list price, options included, etc. Sure would end a lot of the confusion, and possible lying, misrepresentation, etc. yes?!:thumbsup:

 

[Coyote machine]

Tractors arent cars.


If the tractor is in NEW condition, ie: paint is fine. rubber too. Low hours, not previously sold, Seat not damaged etc.etc.. Then year of manufacture isnt important. Its more about condition.

Yes and no. Features differ from one year to the next, so if I'm looking at a 2013 brochure from the manufacturer and think because of it what I'm buying is current calendar year manufactured, and no information to the contrary from the selling dealer; then I may not get what I am paying for if I'm not informed about the leftover 2010 on the lot, (or whatever year the tractor I'm considering was actually built). Maybe new is the wrong word here - possibly we should substitute current model year, manufactured in the current calendar year.

Maybe tractors, like cars should be required by law to have a sticker on the tractor stating year of manufacture, list price, options included, etc. Sure would end a lot of the confusion, and possible lying, misrepresentation, etc. yes?!:thumbsup:

 

[bandaidmd]

I was driving a people mover shuttle at our local county fair, all the tractors are new loaners from local dealers.
Strangly enough the one I was on the hour meter wasnt working, now that my friends is passing off old as new.

 

[brain55]

I was driving a people mover shuttle at our local county fair, all the tractors are new loaners from local dealers.
Strangly enough the one I was on the hour meter wasnt working, now that my friends is passing off old as new.

Yeah that's not right and likely illegal.

 

[aczlan]

Yeah that's not right and likely illegal.

Agreed.

Aaron Z

 

[RedHawkRidge]

I think there's another problem with buying a "new" that is not the current year's model. At some point you may be looking to trade in your tractor that, when you bought it, the actual mfg year wasn't that big a deal to you. Maybe you got it a little cheaper than the current year price. Now your friendly dealer is going to offer you a trade-in value that is based on its age. I would imagine auto trade-in's are more sensitive to to model year than tractors, but I'm sure the discount you got on that 2011 over a 2013 is going to come back at you some day.

 

[MFRED]

Condition and hours have always been more important to me on trade value. Model year is something that has carried over from autos in the last ten years or so. Many times manufacturers change things in the middle of the year. Early/late serial number is more important in such cases. Auto manufacturers confuse it too much in my opinion. Seemed like January this year they were already selling 2014 model year vehicles.

I do agree that a leftover or " birthday" machine should be disclosed during the sale process. Give the option of it with savings or a recently shipped model. Usually there are incentives to push old stock out.

I can see how it would be a sticky situation in today's market with shrinking corporate inventories. Many times you rely on field inventory to close a deal and no one wants to lose a sale.

As a question would a machine that ships in November or December of 2012 be alright to sell as a new 2013? even in December of this year? Just wondering what opinions are on how old is okay before disclosure is needed.

 

[LD1]

Yeah that's not right and likely illegal.

Agreed.

Aaron Z

Or could it possibly be that something just broke and was not reported????

I have had nothing but flawless performance out of my kubota. BUT....the tach cable did twist in two at 0.3 hrs. I probably had 10 or 15 hours on it before the replacement was delivered under warranty (that I replaced).

So it is possible that it is just dumb luck, or it could indeed be that the dealer is a bit shady????

 

[brain55]

Or could it possibly be that something just broke and was not reported????

I have had nothing but flawless performance out of my kubota. BUT....the tach cable did twist in two at 0.3 hrs. I probably had 10 or 15 hours on it before the replacement was delivered under warranty (that I replaced).

So it is possible that it is just dumb luck, or it could indeed be that the dealer is a bit shady????

You're right it could be just be coincidence. But definitely something to make one go hmmmm.

 

[aczlan]

Or could it possibly be that something just broke and was not reported????
I have had nothing but flawless performance out of my kubota. BUT....the tach cable did twist in two at 0.3 hrs. I probably had 10 or 15 hours on it before the replacement was delivered under warranty (that I replaced).
So it is possible that it is just dumb luck, or it could indeed be that the dealer is a bit shady????

Could be bad luck, but it would have me looking VERY closely at the rest of the tractor.

I think there's another problem with buying a "new" that is not the current year's model. At some point you may be looking to trade in your tractor that, when you bought it, the actual mfg year wasn't that big a deal to you. Maybe you got it a little cheaper than the current year price. Now your friendly dealer is going to offer you a trade-in value that is based on its age. I would imagine auto trade-in's are more sensitive to to model year than tractors, but I'm sure the discount you got on that 2011 over a 2013 is going to come back at you some day.

Maybe. Most of the value is based on hours, condition and warranty (which starts at the sale) left.

Aaron Z