FARM DIESEL

[ToolBoxTavern]

No difference in fuel itself. My Experience Red is Off Road, Green or Clear is On Road, and Yellow is BIO which is usually On Road at the place I see it.

Here in south Texas sometimes its only .10 cents difference in cost. I get all the phone numbers together when I am gonna buy Off Road Diesel and call the place that sells it, couple of truck stops, Wal Mart, etc. which are all with in 20 +/- miles and just get the cheapest fuel and plan a route of chores in that direction so its all worth while.

Also you can get fuel delivered to you in some areas, but usually there is a minimum amount you haven to buy.

 

[rholmes69]

Been using it for 8 months now, ran highway for 2 months before I switched. No performance difference I can see. I have been adding 1oz of 2 cycle to every gallon I add, and that has definitely quieted down the valves a lot...

 

[rubicon79]

Been using it for 8 months now, ran highway for 2 months before I switched. No performance difference I can see. I have been adding 1oz of 2 cycle to every gallon I add, and that has definitely quieted down the valves a lot...

I also add the 2 stroke oil. When I bought my tractor the mechanic said they had 6 injection pump failures that year and Mahindra wouldn't warranty them so the dealer stepped up and warrantied them. They claimed it was lack of lubrication. After he told me that I keep a quart of oil in the truck and a gallon in the barn so I make sure to add it every fill up.

As far as I know even off road diesel is now the ULSD fuel.

 

[Gary Fowler]

I also add the 2 stroke oil. When I bought my tractor the mechanic said they had 6 injection pump failures that year and Mahindra wouldn't warranty them so the dealer stepped up and warrantied them. They claimed it was lack of lubrication. After he told me that I keep a quart of oil in the truck and a gallon in the barn so I make sure to add it every fill up.

As far as I know even off road diesel is now the ULSD fuel.

My 2010 LS manual says to use ULSD diesel so it is designed to use that fuel. Older tractors may not be. I use red dyed diesel delivered to the farm. I have to watch the prices when I get ready to fill my storage tank as the distributor prices vary just like service stations. Depending on the price when he bulks up his tanks, it could be higher than current pump prices. My distributor will tell me if he is higher or is expecting lower pricing on his next fill up so if I can I wait till the lower prices are available. I think last fill up was $3.48 per gallon. Recently he says that he has to have 250 gallon minimum purchase. I readied myself for this with one of the 275 gallon tote tanks along with my 105 gallon semi-portable tank that I have attached rollers to. Brother in law and I fill up our 105 gallon storage tanks and tractors when we order and so far no service charge ($50) on delivery. I quit messing with 5 gallon cans within months of getting my first tractor, it is difficult, dangerous and unnecessary to heft up a 40 pound can of fuel to the top of a tractor when for less than $500 a 100 gallon tank and pump can be bought. I got two of them off craigslist for $350 each complete with 15 gpm 12 volt pumps, hoses, filters. It could cost much more than that in medical bills from one slip off a tractor while trying to hold that 5 gallon fuel can up for minutes that seem like hours till it slowly trickles in. (**** those new nozzles) I still fill my lawn mowers from 5 gallon cans because I don't use enough to bulk it and use it before it goes stale. Any gasoline that sets more than 30 days get dumped into my truck and the fuel cans get refilled with fresh fuel. I always put Stabil in it to help stabilize it also. I don't put anything in my diesel and so far not one problem. We don't need to worry about gelling as it doesn't get that cold here.

 

[Turbo Goat]

Doesn't the highway diesel have ethanol in it. My understanding is that this can be really bad for fuel systems that aren't designed to handle it. Ethanol is really destructive to rubber hoses and seals.

 

[adirondackmtnman]

Doesn't the highway diesel have ethanol in it. My understanding is that this can be really bad for fuel systems that aren't designed to handle it. Ethanol is really destructive to rubber hoses and seals.

Not around here...I doubt anywhere. Maybe Europe. They're just loco enough to give it a whirl. I don't think it would favor the compression of a diesel.

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[Gary Fowler]

Doesn't the highway diesel have ethanol in it. My understanding is that this can be really bad for fuel systems that aren't designed to handle it. Ethanol is really destructive to rubber hoses and seals.

Why would it have ethanol in highway diesel?
Misinformation is what urban legends are made off. There is not one bit of difference in highway vs farm diesel other than the red dye so the cops can catch those outlaws trying to beat the government out of some road tax.

 

[adventure bob]

Ethanol and diesel aren't chemically compatible. They are only pushed together as an emulsion, which is not stable and requires other chemicals to reduce separation. Also ethanol is a solvent that once separated from mixture will pull lubricity and lower the cetane number. It just doesn't store well enough to be sold as a commercial product.
To get around this, the best way to achieve any reduction in emissions is to direct inject ethanol. Look up Snow performance for trucks to see a great description of direct injection and the cost of injection systems. By keeping the alcohol until the point of combustion, you eliminate the chemical reactions that occur during storage.
How do you know youre getting oxygenated diesel, as this is called? Youre paying more for it.

 

[adventure bob]

The difference between off road and over the road diesel is simply the die and the taxes. Its exactly the same diesel you local distributor puts in the shell station. It would cost more to have some separate production line than to simply take some quantity of diesel and dye it to meet the feds rules.

 

[rholmes69]

Technically Turbo Goat is right on the ethanol in diesel, but it isn't an "intentional" addition of ethanol. The problem is that the gas and diesel distribution isn't a parallel operation (not my vocabulary, what the reports out there). Diesel is loaded in tankers that had E10 blends of gas and the residual mixes with the diesel, where it caused the rash of issues in the late 2000's that brought it to light. I forgot to mention I always add Startron or Stabil or similar personally to all my "offroad" fuel consuming equipment (push mowers, 2 strokes, side x side, generator, etc) to deal with water/ethanol problems.