50+ PTO HP Hydro

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#22  
That's what I figured...but my point is that the jd 4x20's are interim tier 4 and no DPF (yet).

Bingo.

My question exactly.

The interim Tier IV standards affect this HP range as of 01/01/2014, and other manufacturers are getting their ducks in a row.

If the federales have written the regs as they did for other so-called "pollutants," it is possible to buy/sell/trade "credits" (to enrich folks like Algore). Perhaps, JD, like Bobcat, has bought "credits" to delay the inevitable.

Time will tell.

SDT
 
   / 50+ PTO HP Hydro #23  
Interim Tier 4 for the 25 - 75 HP range has been in affect since 2008. None have DPF (Diesel Particulate filter or use DEF with Selective Catalyst Reduction. the DPF or DEF use came in for the It4 specifications in 2013 for the 75+ - 150 HP range. The 25 - 75 HP range is what we are seeing coming into production this year, became affective Jan. 1, 2014.
 
   / 50+ PTO HP Hydro #24  
Interim Tier 4 for the 25 - 75 HP range has been in affect since 2008. None have DPF (Diesel Particulate filter or use DEF with Selective Catalyst Reduction. the DPF or DEF use came in for the It4 specifications in 2013 for the 75+ - 150 HP range. The 25 - 75 HP range is what we are seeing coming into production this year, became affective Jan. 1, 2014 for Final Tier 4.
 
   / 50+ PTO HP Hydro #25  
Well like Kubota is still making M108s due to credits.

Kubota made the SVL75 up to the last day cranking them now. The new one is the SVL-2 with emissions.

D.
 
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#26  
Yeah, like tripleR said, JD 4520, or 4720. The 4720 will give you 58 plus HP at the PTO, and has a nice hydro tranny. It does have a turbo.
PTO speed has the engine spinning at 2400rpm, but max power of 59 at the PTO is at 2200rpm. Take a look at the nebraska test for more info.
Why are you averse to turbos? Just the added parts?

Yesterday I visited a dealer that has both open station and cab versions of the 4720 in stock and he is working on quotes for me.

Thanks for the link to the NE test. The test is dated 2009. Anyone know if engine specs have changed in any way since the test was performed? The JD brochure rates the 4720 at 56 PTO HP but does not specify engine RPM.

SDT
 
   / 50+ PTO HP Hydro #27  
Good luck, those are really nice tractors.
 
   / 50+ PTO HP Hydro #28  
Depending on what you want to do they can be a great tractor or a horrible one. AC filter design is really lacking.

D.
 
   / 50+ PTO HP Hydro #29  
Yesterday I visited a dealer that has both open station and cab versions of the 4720 in stock and he is working on quotes for me.

Thanks for the link to the NE test. The test is dated 2009. Anyone know if engine specs have changed in any way since the test was performed? The JD brochure rates the 4720 at 56 PTO HP but does not specify engine RPM.

SDT

It should be 56HP PTO at 2400RPMs.


From the JD Website
Manufacturer John Deere 4024T
Engine power 97/68/EC rated power (gross), hp (kW) 66.0 (48.5) per ISO 97/68/EC
PTO power - Gear transmission, hp (kW) ---
PTO power - Hydrostatic transmission, hp (kW) 56.0 (41.8) per SAE
Rated engine speed, rpm 2400
Type Diesel
Operating range 950-2600
 
   / 50+ PTO HP Hydro #30  
Yesterday I visited a dealer that has both open station and cab versions of the 4720 in stock and he is working on quotes for me.

Thanks for the link to the NE test. The test is dated 2009. Anyone know if engine specs have changed in any way since the test was performed? The JD brochure rates the 4720 at 56 PTO HP but does not specify engine RPM.

SDT

JD "turned up" the power on the 4x20's in '09, and they haven't changed since. JD has a tendency to actually under rate most of their tractors, so I always check the Nebraska test data.
Another thing nice about the test labs, is they have the torque rise and the fuel economy numbers. You can see that the JD Powertech engines have impressive torque numbers and good fuel economy compared to a normally aspirated engine.

I think the cab will cost you about 8K. For me, I wanted to be as manueverable and handy as possible for livestock chores and bush hogging, so I opted for no cab.
 

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