Dumb question time - pasture grass

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DaNag

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I love the Internet. Relative anonymity allows me to share my complete ignorance without reprisal...:D

I've about 3 acres in the PNW I need to get seed down on in the next few weeks. The property was cleared of alders about 6 months back, graded about 2 months ago, and I just hit the small but numerous resulting weeds that popped up with glyphosate last weekend.

I've had my County ag folks out, and they've advised what pasture seed mixes will work well for me. They've also provided great info on how to prep/plant the area, so I'm fairly comfortable with that process. What I don't know - what exactly, I can expect aesthetically with "pasture grass."

Aesthetics matter somewhat, as I'll not have any livestock in the area for a couple years - if ever. That decision is a ways off, and if it happens there might be a couple horses and/or a few sheep. But, maybe not - I could toss fruit trees, berry bushes or some other form of landscaping out there should we decide against animals. So, given our indecisiveness - the immediate concern is getting something green down now that will look decent when mowed, that will also choke out the undesirable weeds that will continue to come in if I do nothing. Doesn't need to be manicured/golf course quality - just something I can hit with the flail mower and enjoy as a yard for the next couple of years until we know exactly what we'll do with the space.

The blend in question is 50% Orchard Grass, 25% Tall Fescue, 15% Perennial Rye, 10% Annual Rye. Known to do well in my region, and far cheaper than lawn seed - less than $1/pound when bought in bulk. But...what to expect when not using this for grazing? Will it survive OK if I mow it routinely - preferably, never letting it get more than 4-5" tall? And - assuming it comes in as expected and fertilized as appropriate, what will it look like? Suitable for a little croquet and frisbee, or just a lumpy/clumpy green area where the dogs can run?

Thanks for not laughing too hard,

A former City Boy
 
   / Dumb question time - pasture grass #2  
If you aren't sure what you want right now, consider planting annual rye, buckwheat, and/or oats. You will build up your soil, (especially if you turn it under) without introducing a perennial grass.
 
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P.S.; the only "dumb question" is one which you don't ask. ;)
 
   / Dumb question time - pasture grass #4  
No... we like dumb questions because we all want to know the answer without having to ask and... if we can make a smart remark in the process, all the better! :D Actually good question in this case. Kinda wondering what to do myself on a smaller scale though.
 
   / Dumb question time - pasture grass #5  
If you have mare breeding in your future leave out the Fescue I have learned.
 
   / Dumb question time - pasture grass #6  
If you aren't sure what you want right now, consider planting annual rye, buckwheat, and/or oats. You will build up your soil, (especially if you turn it under) without introducing a perennial grass.

Yep, what Jstpassng says. Until you know just what you're going to use the land for, take the 'long view' & build up your soil. Years down the track (as we say here) you'll be glad you did.

Also, think carefully about what critter you may put on in the future... and I'm not just talking about the types of seed to sow. "There might be a couple of horses and/or a few sheep" means a whole new world of management. About the only creature that I know of that pretty much 'take care of themselves' are goats, and this is from an 'old goat' Mate of mine up Canberra way.
 
   / Dumb question time - pasture grass #7  
If you have mare breeding in your future leave out the Fescue I have learned.

You should share the reasoning rather than leaving everyone wonder... You're talking to people that want to learn and who appreciate any information you can provide. ;)
 
   / Dumb question time - pasture grass #8  
Placenta sac gets too thick to break in the birthing process is all I know so they can suffocate if one one is around to break it .
Well one said it will dry up their milk but it seems that is an old husband's tale the best I can find.
 
   / Dumb question time - pasture grass #9  
I am about 100 miles south of you and that mixture will do you good. But beware you will be doing a lot of mowing in the spring.
 
   / Dumb question time - pasture grass #10  
I am aware of the issue with fescue and pregnant mares. However, we have lots of fescue here and never had a problem with a dozen foals. IDK how critical of an issue it really is. However I would not plant fescue if I had a choice.
 

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