Timber Frame Hybrid Home - Owner Builder

[jk96]

Any chance you'd be willing to share your cost breakdowns for sip vs stick framing/foam? I'd be very interested to see I am dealing with sip quotes now and it is a big decision ($$$). If you'd be willing I can message you my email address.

It's hard for me to give you an apples to apples comparison since we reduced the plan from a full timberframe to a partial timberframe before getting a framing bid. The company doing the framing is also closing in the house. Their estimate includes framing the entire house including basement, subfloor, interior, all T&G car siding, hardi exterior siding, all window and door install, and spray foam.

If you want to PM me I'll be glad to share the SIP estimate as well as my estimate for all components listed with the stick frame bid.

 

[jk96]

We are moving forward again. The owner of the framing co. was back on site Thursday and Friday. They spent Thurs. fixing window and door rough openings and began moving forward again on Friday. The first floor is framed and I-joist are up on the second floor of the left wing. There is a lot more work going on now and very little head scratching. I think more work was done Friday than the first three days combined.

 

[tkappeler]

Oh boy. Awesome video. Can't wait to see more.

 

[Larro Darro]

It's looking great. Starting to look like a house now.

Larro

 

[ster009]

nice house... it looks beautiful. what kind of roof are you thinkin? slate.metal.asphalt?

 

[jk96]

nice house... it looks beautiful. what kind of roof are you thinkin? slate.metal.asphalt?

We plan to do asphalt shingles. I'd love to do slate but it's not in the budget.

 

[dave1949]

Have you checked out composite slate roofing?
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Saw a lot of that used in Germany and it seemed to be a good product, but I don't really know anything about the US brands or their reputation for quality. I don't know if I would want a real slate roof unless I won the lottery. They look nice but may not be very practical.

We lived in a several hundred year old farm house for a year in Germany, it had a real slate roof laid over slats/purlins. On a windy day the slates would ripple and make a ringing sound like the keys on the higher left side of a piano keyboard. :laughing: The nails had rusted and the holes in the slates were hand punched, so there was some wiggle room that developed over time. It wasn't all that loud but fun to go up in the attic and listen to.

 

[ster009]

We plan to do asphalt shingles. I'd love to do slate but it's not in the budget.

Slpurge for the slate... you'll love the look and it lasts a life time!

 

[jk96]

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Slpurge for the slate... you'll love the look and it lasts a life time!

I'd really like to but just can't swing it. Our goal for the build is $125 sq/ft including ground work and basement. It's going to be really tough to hit that number and slate just doesn't fit into the equation.

As far as framing goes I-joist are up on both wings now. Subfloor for the 2nd floor stick portion of the home should be going down tomorrow. I've also found that stick framing a timberframe is a bit tricky in some areas. So far we've had to insulate some corners and areas that would be impossible to get to after the outside sheeting was on. Areas around the corner posts are one spot that had to be insulated now. If I hadn't caught it would have been covered up by the framing leaving empty wall cavities.

The other difficult area is the tongue and groove going over the ceiling of the dining room and kitchen. Plans call for the T&G to go down first then 2x6 joists over the T&G. The problem this creates is protecting the T&G from the weather as it would be exposed until any mechanicals in this area are installed and then the second floor and roof is built on top to cover it. I'm going to take a look at a couple of options tomorrow including running some 1x material under the 2x6 joist so that we can hopefully slide the T&G in between the timbers and joists later after the roof is on.

 

[tkappeler]

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The other difficult area is the tongue and groove going over the ceiling of the dining room and kitchen. Plans call for the T&G to go down first then 2x6 joists over the T&G. The problem this creates is protecting the T&G from the weather as it would be exposed until any mechanicals in this area are installed and then the second floor and roof is built on top to cover it. I'm going to take a look at a couple of options tomorrow including running some 1x material under the 2x6 joist so that we can hopefully slide the T&G in between the timbers and joists later after the roof is on.

I feel for you. We had the exact same problem. T&G over the timber rafters, then 2x6 raycores over that, purlins to facilitate a cold roof, then sheathing ... in February. All we could do was put down two layers of 4 mil poly sheeting over the T&G and under the raycores and keep it tarped really well until the shingles could go on. That and pray and hold our breath.