Engine oil

[Midniteoyl]

And now days the cost difference is negligible. I just bought enough oil to do 50 oil changes. On average the synthetic was only $25 with a quality filter. The conventional was $18 with a so so filter.

Synthetic is a cost savings in my eyes being able to safely run twice the miles between changes.

Chris

To me, whether the run dino or synth is pretty moot and totally up to you, but, what you SHOULD be worried about is a quality filter and changing it often. Even if I get the 'oil change specials' I always upgrade the filter and that brings the costs difference that much closer.

 

[Thomabear]

To me, whether the run dino or synth is pretty moot and totally up to you, but, what you SHOULD be worried about is a quality filter and changing it often. Even if I get the 'oil change specials' I always upgrade the filter and that brings the costs difference that much closer.

Definitely true! I guess we found something we can agree on.:thumbsup:

 

[kenmac]

I understood exactly what you were saying.
What I do not understand is that you synthetic guys seem to think your vehicles will last xxxx miles longer if you throw unnecessary dollars at them. I guarantee this ain't so... It basically reminds me of the kind of mentality that if you put 200 year bricks on a 100 year house the whole house will last 200 years. How dumb is that? In my life of 54 years I have NEVER had a vehicle outlast an engine. Had I wasted my money on synthetic oil during their use it would have been just that.... Wasted money.... In fact the famous 1 million mile Dodge and 750K 7.3 power stroke ran nothing but conventional oil. Hmmm, how is that? This has to be impossible, right?
FWIW, I'm not gullible enough to believe synthetic oil is needed to carry my vehicles through their useful life and I certainly don't believe in paying an unnecessary premium for a warm fuzzy feeling.

Actually it's quite simple.... You believe and do what you will and I'll do the same. Oil debates aren't worth the argument IMO. See ya at 300K.

Dino is old school. Even vehicle manufactures realize this and, are starting to put synthetic oil in their vehicles straight off the assy. line. I guess you know more than these automotive engineers about what works best in their auto. Some time, it's hard to teach old dogs new tricks. I'm an exception to the rule. I'm 55 and still learning new tricks. Stick with your dino, I'll stick with my synthetic

 

[DarkBlack]

He didn't say he knows more about auto designs than auto engineers. He said in his last post, and the 2 or 3 previous posts he made, that the vehicle "parts ways" from it's owner for every reason in the book, but not because of the lack of synthetic oil. Be it rust, transmission, accident, or trade in, I think he's 100% correct.
Obsessing over engine crankcase oil seems to be a common irrational behavior oddity for some males, on internet sites. If common sense was truly "common", then one would be more worried about posting of bad weather or, bumps in the road- both are more apt to impact the longevity, and devaluation of your vehicle.

 

[kenmac]

He didn't say he knows more about auto designs than auto engineers. He said in his last post, and the 2 or 3 previous posts he made, that the vehicle "parts ways" from it's owner for every reason in the book, but not because of the lack of synthetic oil. Be it rust, transmission, accident, or trade in, I think he's 100% correct.
Obsessing over engine crankcase oil seems to be a common irrational behavior oddity for some males, on internet sites. If common sense was truly "common", then one would be more worried about posting of bad weather or, bumps in the road- both are more apt to impact the longevity, and devaluation of your vehicle.

I understand what he's trying to say. I just don't believe what he's saying in post # 56 "oil is oil" I've got some property I'd love to sell you if you believe this

 

[Soundguy]

it's inevetable. any time you have the options for choices.. there will be different choices and differnet opinions and reasoning to support them.

look at firearms. ammo opinions are all over and flamewars errupt. some people think thunderbolt 22lr are junky and won't shoot them because they are dirty. Others say that anyone that is too lazy to clean their gun is stupid... go on to relaoding.... some people don't like nickle coated cases.. some do. some don't like small primer 45acp brass. some look down on low cost firearms. some think expensive ones are wastefull.

it's the same with paint color on tractors...

look at someones choice of friends or a mate.

if everyone was the same.. we'd all be robots and that would be so much less fun...

He didn't say he knows more about auto designs than auto engineers. He said in his last post, and the 2 or 3 previous posts he made, that the vehicle "parts ways" from it's owner for every reason in the book, but not because of the lack of synthetic oil. Be it rust, transmission, accident, or trade in, I think he's 100% correct.
Obsessing over engine crankcase oil seems to be a common irrational behavior oddity for some males, on internet sites. If common sense was truly "common", then one would be more worried about posting of bad weather or, bumps in the road- both are more apt to impact the longevity, and devaluation of your vehicle.

 

[kenmac]

if everyone was the same.. we'd all be robots and that would be so much less fun...

That's what I tell my wife:laughing:

 

[Diamondpilot]

I run synthetics in my autos because they are high utilization items.

My boats, generators, mowers, tractor, etc get dino. I just sleep better at night changing the oil in each of these items at 75 hours or once per year. There is no gain in my eyes to using synthetics in a low utilization item since I will change the oil way before it's worn out.

Chris

 

[Raw Dodge]

Try 188k on an '06 Sierra 4.8L...

Still going strong at 225k running Mobil 1 5W30 syn

That's not a big deal for a GM LS engine,my brother sold his 01 5.3 with 340k miles ,never ran synthetic,just regular 5w30 and the guy he sold it to is still running it 2 yrs later...he just took an 05 chevy 1500 w5.3 on trade that had 5 oil changes in 185k miles,and it runs like new no noises and good oil pressure...I'd expect 400k out of that engine easily...

 

[Peacock]

Nearly all GM vehicles use synthetic now that the Dexos requirement is in place.