I know the McCormicks are red Kioits. My question is would there be an advantage to one over the other? The dealer carries both and the price is the same. Red looks better to me though. I know there are more Kioti dealers around and I was wondering if McCormick is going to stay around this time. Any thoughts?
Buying Advice Kioti vs McCormick
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buickanddeere
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Check out the Deere before purchasing
TSO
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More accurately, the McCormicks are the Red Daedongs; Kioti would be the orange Daedong
Since the tractors are the same, what you'll need to compare then are the front end loaders (they're different), added options, warranty, price, and dealerships.
I think the red looks better too. There's a dollar amount that I personally would pay to have the red over the orange (if everything else was the same), but that might just be me.
Keep in mind, Kioti will stay Kioti ... But McCormick might change again. They used to be built by LS, so you can never really know for sure what'll happen down the road.
My thoughts exactly on McCormicks. I didnt think about the loaders being different either. I have also been trying to get some seat time in a LS 4047 HST. The closest dealer doesnt have a HST. Wanted to see the layout as well as how much whine there is. TSO you happy with yours?
TSO
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Very happy with mine. My shopping came down to a Kioti DK40/45/50 vs the LS R4041/47. I had a smaller Kioti before (ck20). It was a good tractor. Had a couple issues that were fixed under warranty.
There were things that I liked about both of the tractors. The Kioti loader lifts 123 pounds more to full height, but the LS loader has more low-end grunt ... breakout force is 627 pounds more on the LS. There have been a few times where the extra height would have been nice (Kioti loader lifts 11" higher) but I use the extra breakout force every time. But, I don't know the specs of the McCormick loader, it might be better than the other two, I don't have the specs in front of me.
The Kioti operators area was a bit more spacious. Some of the controls of each tractor were in better or worse spots than the other (just personal preference). I obviously went with the LS, but it could have easily gone the other way. I'm very happy with mine though ... no problems yet, although it's only been about 130 hours. There doesn't seem to be many (hard to find them) problems with the LS tractors. You can try to check the other forums (New Holland Boomer 35/40/50 and Case Farmall 35b/40b/50b are the same tractor) but there just haven't been many problems reported.
Go sit on them and drive them both. That's what helped me make my decision. As for HST whine, I didn't notice if one was better or worse, but I was used to HST whine from my CK20 so maybe I just didn't pay attention. Now that I think about it, I don't really notice HST whine in this LS unless I'm in High gear. But, I'm almost never in H, so it's never present.
Good luck! There's other good tractors worth comparing too. Check out the Kubota L4240/4740, their MX4700/5100, and the Mahindra 4035.
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If I ever buy another tractor. There's 1 thing for sure. It won't be a contract built tractor. When the contract ends with 1 builder will parts still be available ? Why buy a McCormick or any contract tractor when, you can buy a tractor from the people that build the contract tractors ?
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+1 Exactly- just take a look at what happened recently to the Bobcat line of Daedong tractors. Bobcat stopped selling them. Kioti is the tractor in the group you're interested in, Daedong built tractors. Daedong will continue to make and sell them here in the U.S.
Tx Jim
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Hey b&d which JD model do you have picked out to move SNOW with?? That is if your wife would ever give you permission to buy one!!!!!:thumbdown:
buickanddeere
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JD 4005 is tough to beat for the $$$.
