Prepping

   / Prepping #61  
I want to grow peanuts since I eat them every day. The problem is shelling the danged things. There are plans for a home built sheller but there are problems with it like concrete dust in the shelled peanuts. I think that could be "fixed" by using metal sheet. My wifey's family used to grow hundreds of acres of peanuts and her grandfather showed me a sheller he made. I don't remember much of the sheller because it was in bad shape and I saw it years ago. Just another question I would ask Grandpa if he was still around...

Anyway, peanuts are supposed to be easy to grow and are VERY energy dense. Since peanuts are high in fat and protein they are a very valuable energy source. If you can squeeze oil out of the peanuts you have yet another valuable resource. Some heritage breeds of pigs had been created to "make" fat or meat. Fat is very important and valuable.

Later,
Dan
 
   / Prepping #62  
   / Prepping #63  
Yeah, lots to think about. That was my wife's reaction when I started talking about doomsday stuff; "you just need a gun with three bullets" I'd rather go down fighting. If you're new to the SHTF stuff, watch this;
After Armageddon - A SHTF scenario. - YouTube
...

Oh question for you guys; The arsinic in my well water is due to the water trickling through the bedrock, so would the water in the surrounding lakes and streams also have it?

Just finished watching that show sure seems a high bit more good than most of the after world ends type Movies and or TV shows but then it was made by Discovery rather than some thrill seeking network show. I liked the "After Man" or "After Civilization" (forget the dang name now) show they ran for a while too. One thing they always forget is the Melt Down of nuclear reactors now good number will go into fail safe mode & be good for a long time but there will be some Japan or Chernobyl style meltdowns most likely. (Note I am a fan of them for our power needs and see them as pretty safe BUT would probably have to contend with them more in N.E. from fall out than mid west.)

Water, food, ammo, fuel and the like would be of main concerns Shelter will be for the having if 1/3 or more of population is gone... That show suggested 80% gone in 25 years which I could probably see with the major problems... I'd do OK raised off/on living off the land, not that I think I've even got that many years left in ME personally (getting up there already :eek:.) Though could pass along some of what I've learned to a few youths...


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   / Prepping #64  
I try to go into winter with about 3 months of nonperishables... this dates back to when I was just starting out and made good money in the summer, but only minimum wages in the winter. There's something about seeing a big pile of food in the cupboard which (to me) looks even better than a jar ful of money.

A few more ideas... food in the freezer has been mentioned... this would require frequent use of your generator. One way to reduce this is to put the sensor of an indoor/outdoor thermometer in the freezer; you can tell at a glance that your food is at a safe level. (I do this in case my freezer should fail.) Dry beans and peas store well in airtight containers, and are great sources of protein. Just remember that they require a lot of water.

Unless your genny runs on propane or diesel, pour any stored gas into your auto at the end of each month and refill with fresh, treated fuel. this may be overkill, but when the gas station is down the last thing you want is to discover your fuel is bad. :(

Some of us have briefly touched base on the benefits of community... in a total collapse, those with the strongest alliance will be the ones who live the longest.
 
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   / Prepping #65  
Trick is that nobody sees or hears that you have food, fuel or anything else. When desperate their lives will be worth more than yours.

So no visible lights, no generator sounds and no aroma of cooking food.


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Jstpssng said:
Some of us have briefly touched base on the benefits of community... in a total collapse, those with the strongest alliance will be the ones who live the longest.


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   / Prepping #66  
A good first aid kit is indispensable. I'm not talking about these little car kits, although they're better than nothing. I'm talking about a footlocker's worth. Think of being snowed in, no way to get to the hospital for the next 3 days and you have someone (yourself) have a heart attack, a stroke, broken arm, leg, hand or foot, major 3rd degree burn when the Coleman gas stove overturned, or accidentally cut a major artery when the kitchen knife slipped. I'm not saying you need to have a major surgical suite set up or need to be able to suture wounds yourself, but enough to hold someone together long enough to wait it out for help to get to you or to dig yourselves out to get help.

Food. Pre-cooked, canned food, dried or freeze-dried lasts longest. You need extra water for the freeze dried stuff though. Fresh veggies and fruits will only last a week at most. Fresh meat, only a couple days at most, unless the temps are below freezing. Cooked meat, add a day. Unless you have a generator with several days of fuel, don't bother stocking up on frozen foods during the summer.

Water. I have 27 gallons in plastic Jerry cans for my wife and I for cooking, drinking, and cleaning. That's NOT for flushing toilets with - I have a 40 gallon trash can that I fill with water before a storm, or can fill a couple buckets at a time from the nearby river. Keep in mind that 40 gallons of water weighs 320 pounds. 50 gallons is 400 pounds. Make sure your floors are strong enough for that much weight in a small area.

Shelter. The house is well insulated. I have a wood fireplace that I can keep going for several weeks before running out of wood that will keep the house warm enough that the pipes don't freeze. And if necessary, I can drain the pipes before that happens. I can also drain the upstairs zone and close it off so I don;t have to heat as much volume.

Clothing. Be prepared to wear your outside clothes inside the house in the winter. Keep your clothes dry and if they get wet from rain, melted snow, or sweat, change them immediately! That means you need a couple changes at least. Change your under clothing daily; they collect sweat, hair, pieces of skin, etc. Clean dry socks, undies, and t-shirt will reduce the chances of skin infections, keep you warmer, and make you feel better all around, even if your jeans and shirt are so soiled they can stand on their own.

Get a couple of crank lights and radios. You may run out of batteries but you never seem to run out of the ability to turn a handle. And there are some very sturdy models out there that will run a long time on just a little charging.

Put your emergency gear and supplies in a protected location, in containers, where everyone in the family can reach it without a lot of trouble. Someplace that won't get flooded, and you can reasonably reach even if the house gets blown down.

Weapons (i.e. firearms: shotgun, rifle, or pistol). This may sound crazy, but for most of you, don't bother. Only get a weapon if you're going to use it to hunt and kill animals for food. Or if you are 100% certain you have it in you to kill someone. If you have any doubts, confronting a desperate person or group is NOT the time to find out you can't do it. They'll take the weapon and use it against you.

I'm not much of a prepper. But I am a veteran, a hunter and camper, and I was a Boy Scout and a Scout leader for many years.
 
   / Prepping #67  
A few more ideas... food in the freezer has been mentioned... this would require frequent use of your generator.

OR.......

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Some of us have briefly touched base on the benefits of community... in a total collapse, those with the strongest alliance will be the ones who live the longest.


Yes, I'd agree with that.
 
   / Prepping #68  
I was looking at BJs web site yesterday to see if it is worth buying a membership. Still not sure but while I was looking an advertisement was shown for emergency food sold by BJs. I was surprised that BJs was selling stuff for prepping. They had two packages that I saw. One was for around 2,000 calories per person per day for 30 days and the other was something like 1,850 per day. The the larger calorie package was in a box and the smaller calorie was in a bucket. Both seemed to have packaged up freeze dried foods and the 2,000 calorie package seemed to have more veggies. The prices were around $100-130 for the 30 day supply. I think I saw other packages for more people and longer times but I did not click on them to see.

What was interesting, besides that BJ's was selling this stuff, was the much of the freeze dried foods were milk and potatoes which I think are available at many grocery stores. They also had freeze dried eggs and cheese. Not sure those are easily found though.

Later,
Dan
 
   / Prepping #69  
Here Costco occasionally has 'emergency' food items for sale in the store and I think always on their website.At least one of the local Walmarts has a 'storage food' section. We also have stores that specialize in long term storage foods. We have a large Mormon population (one of the tenets of the religion is to have food on hand for you and yours for up to a year) but preppers also utilize the stores and their products.
 
   / Prepping #70  
Food. Pre-cooked, canned food, dried or freeze-dried lasts longest. You need extra water for the freeze dried stuff though. Fresh veggies and fruits will only last a week at most. Fresh meat, only a couple days at most, unless the temps are below freezing. Cooked meat, add a day. Unless you have a generator with several days of fuel, don't bother stocking up on frozen foods during the summer.

Yes and no. Beef is regularly aged to 18 days or even longer. Deer is good with a few days of aging on it but I have had some that was aged as long as 7 days and it was still fine. This is where something like a root cellar is handy as it is a good place to age meat. Obviously it varies with time of year and ground/root cellar temperatures.
 

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