Anyone else hate the new light bulbs?

   / Anyone else hate the new light bulbs? #91  
If you seriously want to get a high quality LED with excellent warm "white" colour, get one of the Philips LED's with the YELLOW lenses. They give light every bit as white as an incandescent, and they give a LOT of light, just as good as an incandescent. They come in several wattages. I have 11W which is a 60W equivalent. Under $20 when on sale. Very, very good lightbulb.

The argument that you cannot get the same amount of light (lumens) from a high quality LED is not accurate. High quality is the key. A typical incandescent 60w is about 780 lumens (many are less), the Philips LED is around 800. Certainly within the same ballpark

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My statement was not inaccurate. I said I cannot get good LED lighting in my local shops. Spending a vacation day,then spending over $100 to drive to a big box store to buy a bunch of $20 light bulbs does not make good sense to me. I won't buy them online without seeing them in operation first. I want to see the light output and spread myself. Call me stubborn, but that's how I roll.

Joe
 
   / Anyone else hate the new light bulbs? #92  
My statement was not inaccurate. I said I cannot get good LED lighting in my local shops. Spending a vacation day,then spending over $100 to drive to a big box store to buy a bunch of $20 light bulbs does not make good sense to me. I won't buy them online without seeing them in operation first. I want to see the light output and spread myself. Call me stubborn, but that's how I roll.

Joe

How will you "see the light output and spread myself" when inside a store? They may have a small display (HD usually does) but it is basically washed out by the ceiling downlighting not giving adequate representation. Plus it is only one single wattage.

Probably the best way to determine if the light is good is online reviews and comments. Order on Amazon if it has good reviews. They should ship to your area and have a good return policy.

Or visit HD next time youre in the area without burning a day or money.... Lots of options.
 
   / Anyone else hate the new light bulbs? #93  
Tell you what, sure do seem to be a whole lot of folks getting pretty worked up over a dang light bulb.
Sure hate to see this bunch deciding on best to use an Aladdin Lamp or a wick oil lamp.
 
   / Anyone else hate the new light bulbs? #94  
Tell you what, sure do seem to be a whole lot of folks getting pretty worked up over a dang light bulb.
Sure hate to see this bunch deciding on best to use an Aladdin Lamp or a wick oil lamp.

That's kind of the point... why does any bunch have to decide on my choice of lamp?
 
   / Anyone else hate the new light bulbs? #95  
Tell you what, sure do seem to be a whole lot of folks getting pretty worked up over a dang light bulb.
Sure hate to see this bunch deciding on best to use an Aladdin Lamp or a wick oil lamp.

You probably can't use a oil lamp anymore, there are probably too much emissions from them.

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   / Anyone else hate the new light bulbs? #96  
You probably can't use a oil lamp anymore, there are probably too much emissions from them.

You can use an oil lamp if it has computerized fuel injection and a catalytic converter.

Bruce
 
   / Anyone else hate the new light bulbs? #97  
Tell you what, sure do seem to be a whole lot of folks getting pretty worked up over a dang light bulb.
Sure hate to see this bunch deciding on best to use an Aladdin Lamp or a wick oil lamp.

Wick lamps are the best, of course. :laughing:

Aladdin lamps have those fragile booties to worry about. I wouldn't be burning an oil lamp unless the power is out. If the power is out, I've other things to think about than lamp booties. Anyone with a bit of sense would know I'm right. :laughing::laughing:
 
   / Anyone else hate the new light bulbs?
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#98  
OK, I stumbled across an LCD floodlight yesterday at Costco so, on the strength of comments here I bought it. Not to be provocative but I didn't buy for any of the global warming issues since they have now largely been discredited as fraudulent and politically motivated. :D

My purchase was entirely based on personal economics. Let's see how long this bulb lasts and what light is produced. I also bought a 150W "rough service" bulb for the garage because some earlier spiral florescent bulbs I bought were too slow to light up.

I got a surprise when, after a long warm up, the light from the 150W incandescent appears to be equal to the 100W equivalent florescent I got for almost free a couple months back.

The jury is still out but, hey I'm open minded. :cool2:


On oil lamps, we use both wick and the Aladdin cone style and both have their use. For a short outage, the wick lamp is best because you can start and stop with little in the way of wicks to replace. It's just a dim light.
The Aladdin cone lamps however, give out bright light but should be reserved for longer uses because the mantles are so fragile they shatter with the off and on of a short use. For an all day burn they are first rate.
In either case, good lamp oil makes a big difference.
 
   / Anyone else hate the new light bulbs? #99  
Spiker .........I agree with you totally about how "savings" from CFLs in winter fail to take into account the reduced heat that incandescents give a room. In Ontario here starting Jan 1 we are told we will no longer be able to buy incandescents, I don't believe it will happen, but I have stocked up and live close to USA border. Not that I try to heat my house with incandescent bulbs , but for example I try to keep my insultated garage no less than 36 degrees farenheit, so my paint won't freeze etc etc...... so I start a fire in woodstove every second or third day, in winter, but sometimes I just need to leave a couple lights on in the garage and that will be enough to keep it above freezing until I get around to starting a fire.
I find leaving a few lights on is far less worrying than plug in a portable heater that could spark or fry.
Yes I have a few of the new fangled ones , but they burn out quite often too. ...and trust me they don't get disposed with the "hazmatt" method, they just get buried in the regular garbage bag....I didn't ask for mercury bulbs to become the standard and it was not thought out well by the politics behind it.
As for summer I barely use lights in house in summer and sun goes down at 10 pm and thats bed time. I rarely use window airconditioner.
 
   / Anyone else hate the new light bulbs? #100  
Spiker .........I agree with you totally about how "savings" from CFLs in winter fail to take into account the reduced heat that incandescents give a room. In Ontario here starting Jan 1 we are told we will no longer be able to buy incandescents, I don't believe it will happen, but I have stocked up and live close to USA border. Not that I try to heat my house with incandescent bulbs , but for example I try to keep my insultated garage no less than 36 degrees farenheit, so my paint won't freeze etc etc...... so I start a fire in woodstove every second or third day, in winter, but sometimes I just need to leave a couple lights on in the garage and that will be enough to keep it above freezing until I get around to starting a fire.
I find leaving a few lights on is far less worrying than plug in a portable heater that could spark or fry.
Yes I have a few of the new fangled ones , but they burn out quite often too. ...and trust me they don't get disposed with the "hazmatt" method, they just get buried in the regular garbage bag....I didn't ask for mercury bulbs to become the standard and it was not thought out well by the politics behind it.
As for summer I barely use lights in house in summer and sun goes down at 10 pm and thats bed time. I rarely use window airconditioner.

I don't think it is going to do much good living near USA, as we are going to stop selling the 40 and 60 watt bulbs in 2014, and have already stopped selling the 75 and up bulbs. Better stock up now if you can. I know what you mean about using them for heat, we used to turn on a light in the well house all the time. No more cheap 50 cent heaters just waiting on your store shelves. Oh well, the government knows best.
 

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