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I kinda expect factual info from a news source. I prefer no bias either way. Just the facts.
My local newspaper is a big disappointment
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I kinda expect factual info from a news source. I prefer no bias either way. Just the facts.
300UGUY
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Our local paper has shut down the local printing operation, it is now printed in Ann Arbor. All the local papers in this state have declined, I think they are hurting 2 ways - they are losing print subscribers, and folks are unwilling to pay for online editions. Papers have a function of informing and keeping folks honest. A good example is the ex Detroit mayor Kilpatrick. He is in prison now due to investigative reporting done by the Detroit Free press. They filed freedom of information lawsuits to get the documents that sent the scumbags to prison. I don't see the online press exposing the crooks like that.
Ha ha ha that's funny right there.:laughing: Factual and news source in the same sentence.
Prepare to be constantly disappointed.:confused3:
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I was thinking it was pretty funny but for a different reason!
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My letter has sparked a response. Somehow, I don't think it's as much a response as a politcal statement by someone who has been smokin' some bad drugs. Seriously! This guy talks about what we have been "conditioned" to think of as crime. Stolen guns? Stolen credit cards? Doing the stealing while being on drugs? Yep, I'm guilt of being "conditioned" by society to think all these things are criminal behavior. :laughing:
Here's the comment:
"While I agree with much of what you wrote, sadly our jails are not just for those that deserve it! We have prisons for profit (people ranching) we have more people behind bars than any other country! Over 1/3 of these are those with “no victims or violence” in their supposed crimes.
As long as we have laws that destroy families while creating second class citizens, and those with “unwarranted” life time criminal records! They will find ways of providing for their families and survive, which in turn keeps feeding “the system”! I worked death row and admin. seg. for many years, I have seen the animals that do belong behind bars! But I also seen those in maximum to minimum security that should have never been there, I have seen the children and families that visit and their pain.
Those that make choice others have been “conditioned” to believe are wrong, should not be a means for “others” employment, self serving agendas or profits! Our prisons, jails, courts and enforcement are for those that harm others, are they not? By our own actions we are creating needless problems that we the tax payers have to carry the load, while families are being destroyed!
THERE HAS TO BE A BETTER WAY, help us find it!
Rusty White
Speaker for LEAP | Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "
:laughing:Here's the comment:
"While I agree with much of what you wrote, sadly our jails are not just for those that deserve it! We have prisons for profit (people ranching) we have more people behind bars than any other country! Over 1/3 of these are those with “no victims or violence” in their supposed crimes.
As long as we have laws that destroy families while creating second class citizens, and those with “unwarranted” life time criminal records! They will find ways of providing for their families and survive, which in turn keeps feeding “the system”! I worked death row and admin. seg. for many years, I have seen the animals that do belong behind bars! But I also seen those in maximum to minimum security that should have never been there, I have seen the children and families that visit and their pain.
Those that make choice others have been “conditioned” to believe are wrong, should not be a means for “others” employment, self serving agendas or profits! Our prisons, jails, courts and enforcement are for those that harm others, are they not? By our own actions we are creating needless problems that we the tax payers have to carry the load, while families are being destroyed!
THERE HAS TO BE A BETTER WAY, help us find it!
Rusty White
Speaker for LEAP | Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "
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In other words, he's taking the opportunity to express his opinion about our drug laws, but did say "I agree with much of what you wrote", kinda skipping over the fellow's other crimes.
And of course, the drug laws ARE changing. I'm sure everyone has seen that Colorado is the latest state to legalize recreational marijuana. I can remember when possession of any quantity of marijuana would get you 15 years in Texas. Now it's a small fine, if anything.
And I'm sure nearly all of us can think of some "crimes" that we don't think should be crimes; drug laws, prostitution, gambling, liquor laws not involving injuries or property damage, etc. The so-called victimless crimes. There will always be some who think those things should result in severe penalties, and others who think they shouldn't even be a crime.
And of course, the drug laws ARE changing. I'm sure everyone has seen that Colorado is the latest state to legalize recreational marijuana. I can remember when possession of any quantity of marijuana would get you 15 years in Texas. Now it's a small fine, if anything.
And I'm sure nearly all of us can think of some "crimes" that we don't think should be crimes; drug laws, prostitution, gambling, liquor laws not involving injuries or property damage, etc. The so-called victimless crimes. There will always be some who think those things should result in severe penalties, and others who think they shouldn't even be a crime.
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Maybe it is where I live, but most everyone around here knows someone or has a relative who has been locked up, or is locked up- from the county jail to the state jail, juvenile too. It is easy to write off one's neighbors. Sometimes they are jerks and sometimes they are good people who act like jerks. Takes all types to make the world. They leave me alone, I leave them alone. The sad ones are the kids whose fathers can't take them hunting because they are felons. But they probably jack deer together at night to have something to put on the table. They might even grow a little weed to sell and go junkin together. It is a complex world. We assign responsibility, but that is not the end of the story.
300UGUY
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I see that also. The little numbnuts get caught, and he cannot drive himself to school or to a job. And having the dui or felony for drugs automatically disqualifies them for most jobs. I see a lot of punishment for young people, and not much opportunity. It's easy to critisize, it's a lot harder to actually do something. (This is getting away from the op.)
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Let's try to keep politics out of this if we can. It doesn't take politics to say that we have had 15 death row executions in Texas in 2013 and over 1200 DUI related deaths on our highways. those 1200 were executed just as surely as the death row inmates. It just seems to me that our graveyards are filling up at a faster rate than our jails. One DUI conviction might not be a reason to send someone to prison, but the next instance of DUI could be driving the wrong way on the freeway and killing a whole family. Where do we draw the line?
Recently, most of us were shocked here in Texas when a psychiatrist coined the word "affluenza" and helped get a 16 yo off with probation after he drove the vehicle that killed four innocent victims. Is this justice?
How about the Kaufman County Texas JP, Eric Williams, and his wife who together plotted and carried out the revenge killings of Asst DA Mark Hasse and DA Mark McClelland and his wife? Is there justice in this man being paid by the taxpayers while he carries out his personal vendetta? He will have the full protection of the law during his trial and continue to be a burden on the taxpayers for many years. I don't think I can count the victims in this case.
All too fresh in our minds is the man who went into a Real Estate office and stabbed his ex-wife to death just this week. The taxpayers will pay for his medical bills due to his botched attempted suicide. We'll also pay for his protection and probably his legal team who will attempt to defend this creep.
I just don't want our justice system to become like India where a gang of men can rape a woman on a bus and get away with it. I don't want the US to turn into a place like Pakistan where the 16 yo girl, Malala, was shot in the face by the Taliban.
Yep! I'm getting too political, so I'll end my thoughts by saying the comment to my letter by the gent above was far to broad and generalized to ever have a credible response. Nobody can argue with such generalizations. That's why many people attempt to use them in their arguments.
Recently, most of us were shocked here in Texas when a psychiatrist coined the word "affluenza" and helped get a 16 yo off with probation after he drove the vehicle that killed four innocent victims. Is this justice?
How about the Kaufman County Texas JP, Eric Williams, and his wife who together plotted and carried out the revenge killings of Asst DA Mark Hasse and DA Mark McClelland and his wife? Is there justice in this man being paid by the taxpayers while he carries out his personal vendetta? He will have the full protection of the law during his trial and continue to be a burden on the taxpayers for many years. I don't think I can count the victims in this case.
All too fresh in our minds is the man who went into a Real Estate office and stabbed his ex-wife to death just this week. The taxpayers will pay for his medical bills due to his botched attempted suicide. We'll also pay for his protection and probably his legal team who will attempt to defend this creep.
I just don't want our justice system to become like India where a gang of men can rape a woman on a bus and get away with it. I don't want the US to turn into a place like Pakistan where the 16 yo girl, Malala, was shot in the face by the Taliban.
Yep! I'm getting too political, so I'll end my thoughts by saying the comment to my letter by the gent above was far to broad and generalized to ever have a credible response. Nobody can argue with such generalizations. That's why many people attempt to use them in their arguments.
