how the ***do I get to this?

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Hamor

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Kubota L3240
Pulled the tractor in to do a oil and filter change and found a hose up under the plate the radiator sets on.leaking hyd. fluid .
I don't see how to get to the top of the hose clamp to tighten it. I don't want to start taking things off if I don't have to but that''s what it looks like I have to do. If the clamp where to have been turned so the screw was on the bottom then no problem .
Anyone have any idea's how to get to it any other way?
Tried to turn the clamp around to get the screw on the bottom with no luck ,must be just tight enough that it won't turn.
Any help would be appreciated. I did take some pic's of it the best I could ,but need the wifey to load them up for me so I'll get them on asap if that would help
 
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Yes, pictures would help.:D
Ken
 
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These are the pic's of the hose that I'm trying to get to . As you can see the screw to tighten it is on top and no way to get to it unless I remove ? P1020039.jpgP1020035.jpgP1020037.jpg
 
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IMO...it's a good investment to obtain the parts/service manuals...correct and timely maintenance equals maintained value...

The service manual should describe/show the OEM procedure(s)....

Good Luck...
 
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The problem I am having is I have never seen a hydraulic fitting with a hose clamp on it. I could be wrong, but are you sure it is hydraulic fluid?, and if so, is it possible it is coming from somewhere else? Hose clamp fitting are usually radiator fittings. Low pressure, Hydraulic fitting are high pressure. Now for my credentials, I have none, I am not a mechanic.

James K0UA
 
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The problem I am having is I have never seen a hydraulic fitting with a hose clamp on it. I could be wrong, but are you sure it is hydraulic fluid?, and if so, is it possible it is coming from somewhere else? Hose clamp fitting are usually radiator fittings. Low pressure, Hydraulic fitting are high pressure. Now for my credentials, I have none, I am not a mechanic

I'm going to run out and check again ,but your right if that's the leak then it must be anti-freeze . But when I felt it I thought it was Hyd. fluid . So if it turns out to be Hyd. then it has to be leaking from somewhere else . I'll get back with what I find ,Thanks
 
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Ok so I found that the other end of the hose comes out of the oil cooler, and where that goes onto the metal hose is where it's leaking. I thought that the fluid felt thick the first time so that's why I didn't think of anti-freeze.It looks as though I have to get under the cooler to be able to get to the top of the screw to tighten it , that means things have to come off ?
 
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My Ford 1215 has regular hose clamps on the hydraulic hoses going into and out of the hydraulic fluid radiator in front of the engine radiator and I bought it brand new so they must be original to the tractor.
 
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Ok.. so it is low pressure hydraulic fluid from the oil cooler.. OK now I understand. I am sorry I can't help with how to get to it... any chance a very long screwdriver could reach it from the top?
 
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My Ford 1215 has regular hose clamps on the hydraulic hoses going into and out of the hydraulic fluid radiator in front of the engine radiator and I bought it brand new so they must be original to the tractor.

Thanks for educating me, I hadn't though about that.:thumbsup:
 
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Ok.. so it is low pressure hydraulic fluid from the oil cooler.. OK now I understand. I am sorry I can't help with how to get to it... any chance a very long screwdriver could reach it from the top?

I wish there was ,its right under the cooler and there is a plate that's under the cooler and that has to come off too to get to it ,or that's what it looks like. I know it sounds like a frig to do when its this cold out. I'll talk to a service guy tomorrow to see what they might say .
 
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I wish there was ,its right under the cooler and there is a plate that's under the cooler and that has to come off too to get to it ,or that's what it looks like. I know it sounds like a frig to do when its this cold out. I'll talk to a service guy tomorrow to see what they might say .

Don't know if this'll help but you might try Kubota.com parts list for your model and try to find the hose that's leaking. They show a pretty good diagram of the area - maybe you can see the easiest or path of least removal of other parts to get to it. Good luck, KW
 
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I talked to the service tech where I bought the tractor. He sent me a diagram of the oil cooler and it showed the house clamp that i was after, he said I shouldn't have have to remove the oil cooler just get it unbolted and that should give me enough room. I also need to unbolt the plate to move that enough to get to it.
He made it sound easy, in my world "nothing easy" it might be' in a nice warm shop but that's not what I have . Might just put it back together for now because of the storm where having and maybe a little warmer day to do it and just keep an eye on the level of hyd fluid.
 
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I talked to the service tech where I bought the tractor. He sent me a diagram of the oil cooler and it showed the house clamp that i was after, he said I shouldn't have have to remove the oil cooler just get it unbolted and that should give me enough room. I also need to unbolt the plate to move that enough to get to it.
He made it sound easy, in my world "nothing easy" it might be' in a nice warm shop but that's not what I have . Might just put it back together for now because of the storm where having and maybe a little warmer day to do it and just keep an eye on the level of hyd fluid.

I hear you, proper warm shop, proper light, proper tools, proper diagrams. Not some guy laying out on the ground in the cold/dark freezing his tushie off and with cold hands trying to get stuff apart.. Been there done that, and it is not much fun.
 
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I hear you, proper warm shop, proper light, proper tools, proper diagrams. Not some guy laying out on the ground in the cold/dark freezing his tushie off and with cold hands trying to get stuff apart.. Been there done that, and it is not much fun.

No not fun at all. I once did a Tranny job while parked in the street in the Winter. Never again will I do that. I hope.
 
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The problem I am having is I have never seen a hydraulic fitting with a hose clamp on it. I could be wrong, but are you sure it is hydraulic fluid?, and if so, is it possible it is coming from somewhere else? Hose clamp fitting are usually radiator fittings. Low pressure, Hydraulic fitting are high pressure. Now for my credentials, I have none, I am not a mechanic.

James K0UA
You may recall that a week or so ago I had broken the housing for the hydraulic filter and had to replace it. Well it has O-ring and one bolt holding the ridged pipe to the tractor hydraulic reservoir and the other end is a 90 degree rubber hose with radiator hose clamps holding the ridgid pipe to the hydraulic pump. Since this is the suction line the pressure is negative when running.
 
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Do you have room to leave the old clamp were it is and put a new one next to it?
 
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Do you have room to leave the old clamp were it is and put a new one next to it?

Or break the old one off and put a new one on oriented so you can tighten it?
 
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You may recall that a week or so ago I had broken the housing for the hydraulic filter and had to replace it. Well it has O-ring and one bolt holding the ridged pipe to the tractor hydraulic reservoir and the other end is a 90 degree rubber hose with radiator hose clamps holding the ridgid pipe to the hydraulic pump. Since this is the suction line the pressure is negative when running.

Yeah I kind of forgot about the suction side of the hydraulic system.. my bad.
 
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I hear you, proper warm shop, proper light, proper tools, proper diagrams. Not some guy laying out on the ground in the cold/dark freezing his tushie off and with cold hands trying to get stuff apart.. Been there done that, and it is not much fun.

I thought "No Guts No Glory" I went for it .
So what the guy told me to do was not even half of what had to be unbolted! I think that he was full of s..t after taking off air cleaner ,unbolting everything that was on the bracket which is part of the pan I need to get behind and all the bolts he told me (which was 4 of them ) there was still no way of the bracket and bottom pan coming out enough to get behind it.
The only way I see to get the pan pulled away enough is to take the oil cooler off, the hoses are so short that it won't allow the pan to pull out enough. If I took the cooler off it would let the hoses go though the holes in the pan and then it could come off . I just don't now what kinda mess I'll be in if I do that , hyd fluid would be coming out of the cooler and hoses , not what I want to get into .
WOW all this for one hose clamp, who would have thought. There must have been an easy way of doing this, but leave it to me to do it the hard way .
I do have a pole barn, no heat and tarps for walls , with two work lights , and don't laugh a hair dryer going to get the feeling back into my fingers when I couldn't feel them, (it worked until I couldn't feel my toes.) It's snowing hard out and 7 below .
I think as much as I don't want to give up I've got to shut it down for the night , or my wife might find me frozen to the ground . Anyone have any thoughts that might help a gardener ( not a tractor mechanic) out I'd be in debt for life Thanks
 

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