Quick Hitches Land Pride Quick Hitch

[ovrszd]

I can open rear cab window on NH TL100A and flip locking levers over. Still have to get out to connect PTO on Bush Hog though?

Wow, that's impressive. I can't begin to reach mine. Cool!!!

 

[RickB]

I can open rear cab window on NH TL100A and flip locking levers over. Still have to get out to connect PTO on Bush Hog though?

Why the heck do you need a cab???:shocked::shocked::shocked::wink:

 

[Piston]

Wow, lot's of activity on here since yesterday! :thumbsup: I'll try to catch up...

Those bushings are common and come with some QHs. They convert CAT I pins to CAT II to fit a CAT I QH. Confused yet???

Remember,,,, a CAT I QH has CAT II sized hooks on the lowers.

Okay, I got some answers yesterday and cleared up all this confusion. First of all, the bushing's I linked to are not Cat 1 to Cat 2 bushings, they go directly from Cat 1 to Cat 3, the Landpride QH has cat 3 sized lower hooks, with 1.5" inside diameter. The bushing I ordered have an inside diameter of 7/8" (cat 1) and outside diameter is 1-7/16" (cat 3)

I double checked the parts I ordered through Amazon, and found on the Northern Tool website the dimensions, from a Northern Tool rep. Then I called Landpride directly and spoke to a tech rep. Funny thing is, I told him I had another question regarding the Quick Hitch, he said, "Is this Matt?" :laughing: I think that means I'm calling Landpride too much lately...

I asked him some of the questions that we have all been pretty confused about, and wrote down some answers, I'll post them below....

"Why are the lower hooks oversized for category 1 implements, and not just sized at 7/8" to begin with?"
There are a couple of reasons, one of them being that not all cat 1 implements have exactly 7/8" pins, some have cat 2 pins, and some have "homemade" pins which a lot of farm implements are. Another reason is that it may be too "snug" of a fit for anything but the "perfect situation". Any implement trying to be picked up at a bit of an angle, or an implement that has slightly bent pins from hard use, wouldn't be able to engage into the "perfectly sized" lower hooks of the quick hitch.

The hooks are sized larger than they need to be, to make hooking up to implements much easier, and allows for these "errors" or "less than perfect" situations. The downside of always having all this "room" available in the lower hooks, is that without any type of bushing, there is a lot of "slop" or "play" in the connections. Lot's of room for that pin to move around in the big lower hook.

You can tighten up the slop by using bushings, as we know. They leave you the option of which bushing to use, based on how much "slop" is acceptable, verse how easy the QH engages the pins of the implement. If your okay with a lot of slop (some implements don't really need to be perfectly engaged) then you don't need a bushing, and it will be simple to hook up, rarely having to adjust anything.
However, if you want a tighter fit, but still don't want to worry about being "perfectly" lined up, then you can use a cat 1 to cat 2 bushing.

If you want the "best" fit, as he worded it, you use a cat 1 to cat 3 bushing, and it results in an almost "perfect" fit, with any slob in the hitch going unnoticed and making no practical difference. (Only 1/16th of an inch slop).
You can use either a 1 to 2 bushing, then a 2 to 3 bushing over it, or you can use the cat 1 to cat 3 bushings.

He said that Cat 1 to Cat 3 bushing's are "ideal" for a tight fit and no slop.

The bushings have nothing to do with wear on either the QH or the implement pins.



A cat 1 to cat 2 pin, will take up 88% of the "slop" and still provide a good fit, while making it slightly easier to "engage" the pins to the QH. These bushing's are also cheaper, and more than likely, we wouldn't notice much of a difference between the "good" fit of the the cat 2 bushings, and the really tight fit of the cat 3 bushings.

All this info above, is good ONLY for the Landpride QH 15 quick hitch. I hope this clears it up, this straight from the "horses mouth."

 

[Piston]

We have sold the Landpride quick hitches and last week we sold a New Holland quick hitch made by Speeco, a company that makes a lot of hitch/linkage stuff. There are two differences in the Landpride and Speeco: the decals and the price. The NH quick hitch sold for $288.

I picked mine up yesterday... Brand new, for $275, including one set of bushings, and a floating top link kit.

 

[murphy1244]

I picked mine up yesterday... Brand new, for $275, including one set of bushings, and a floating top link kit.

You got a steal of a deal as I paid 450.00 for mine.

 

[lostcreekranch]

Why the heck do you need a cab???:shocked::shocked::shocked::wink:

Air Conditioning is so nice in Texas when it's 100 F and above with high humidity. I used to say that I will never have a tractor w/o a FEL that has SSQA.

Now I have added cab with HVAC and QA on 3 point to that. Actually got to use the heater on the NH earlier this week when it was 20 degrees. The Kubota with roof only never moved.

Rick

 

[lostcreekranch]

Wow, lot's of activity on here since yesterday! :thumbsup: I'll try to catch up... Okay, I got some answers yesterday and cleared up all this confusion. First of all, the bushing's I linked to are not Cat 1 to Cat 2 bushings, they go directly from Cat 1 to Cat 3, the Landpride QH has cat 3 sized lower hooks, with 1.5" inside diameter. The bushing I ordered have an inside diameter of 7/8" (cat 1) and outside diameter is 1-7/16" (cat 3) I double checked the parts I ordered through Amazon, and found on the Northern Tool website the dimensions, from a Northern Tool rep. Then I called Landpride directly and spoke to a tech rep. Funny thing is, I told him I had another question regarding the Quick Hitch, he said, "Is this Matt?" :laughing: I think that means I'm calling Landpride too much lately... I asked him some of the questions that we have all been pretty confused about, and wrote down some answers, I'll post them below.... "Why are the lower hooks oversized for category 1 implements, and not just sized at 7/8" to begin with?" There are a couple of reasons, one of them being that not all cat 1 implements have exactly 7/8" pins, some have cat 2 pins, and some have "homemade" pins which a lot of farm implements are. Another reason is that it may be too "snug" of a fit for anything but the "perfect situation". Any implement trying to be picked up at a bit of an angle, or an implement that has slightly bent pins from hard use, wouldn't be able to engage into the "perfectly sized" lower hooks of the quick hitch. The hooks are sized larger than they need to be, to make hooking up to implements much easier, and allows for these "errors" or "less than perfect" situations. The downside of always having all this "room" available in the lower hooks, is that without any type of bushing, there is a lot of "slop" or "play" in the connections. Lot's of room for that pin to move around in the big lower hook. You can tighten up the slop by using bushings, as we know. They leave you the option of which bushing to use, based on how much "slop" is acceptable, verse how easy the QH engages the pins of the implement. If your okay with a lot of slop (some implements don't really need to be perfectly engaged) then you don't need a bushing, and it will be simple to hook up, rarely having to adjust anything. However, if you want a tighter fit, but still don't want to worry about being "perfectly" lined up, then you can use a cat 1 to cat 2 bushing. If you want the "best" fit, as he worded it, you use a cat 1 to cat 3 bushing, and it results in an almost "perfect" fit, with any slob in the hitch going unnoticed and making no practical difference. (Only 1/16th of an inch slop). You can use either a 1 to 2 bushing, then a 2 to 3 bushing over it, or you can use the cat 1 to cat 3 bushings. He said that Cat 1 to Cat 3 bushing's are "ideal" for a tight fit and no slop. The bushings have nothing to do with wear on either the QH or the implement pins. A cat 1 to cat 2 pin, will take up 88% of the "slop" and still provide a good fit, while making it slightly easier to "engage" the pins to the QH. These bushing's are also cheaper, and more than likely, we wouldn't notice much of a difference between the "good" fit of the the cat 2 bushings, and the really tight fit of the cat 3 bushings. All this info above, is good ONLY for the Landpride QH 15 quick hitch. I hope this clears it up, this straight from the "horses mouth."

Piston;

Very well stated. We have the CAT 2 QA from TSC on the NH TL100A. It seems to be identical to the SpeeCO and Land Pride CAT 2 QA's.

To get a really close fit we use CAT 2 to CAT 3 bushings. You are correct in saying that without bushings it is easier to hookup as alignment is not as critical.

We have the Delta Hook system on the Kubota / Cat 1 implements and it is IMHO the best, just pretty expensive since you have a mating piece on each implement. The DH coupled with Fit-Rite hydraulic upper link make hookup a few second operation. Only time you leave seat is to connect PTO. If the Delta Hook System was less expensive I would have used that on the New Holland too. Another real benefit to the Delta Hook is that that the implement side receiver plate is adjustable to accommodate implements that are not "QA compatible".

Rick

 

[ovrszd]

Wow, lot's of activity on here since yesterday! :thumbsup: I'll try to catch up...




Okay, I got some answers yesterday and cleared up all this confusion. First of all, the bushing's I linked to are not Cat 1 to Cat 2 bushings, they go directly from Cat 1 to Cat 3, the Landpride QH has cat 3 sized lower hooks, with 1.5" inside diameter. The bushing I ordered have an inside diameter of 7/8" (cat 1) and outside diameter is 1-7/16" (cat 3)

I double checked the parts I ordered through Amazon, and found on the Northern Tool website the dimensions, from a Northern Tool rep. Then I called Landpride directly and spoke to a tech rep. Funny thing is, I told him I had another question regarding the Quick Hitch, he said, "Is this Matt?" :laughing: I think that means I'm calling Landpride too much lately...

I asked him some of the questions that we have all been pretty confused about, and wrote down some answers, I'll post them below....

"Why are the lower hooks oversized for category 1 implements, and not just sized at 7/8" to begin with?"
There are a couple of reasons, one of them being that not all cat 1 implements have exactly 7/8" pins, some have cat 2 pins, and some have "homemade" pins which a lot of farm implements are. Another reason is that it may be too "snug" of a fit for anything but the "perfect situation". Any implement trying to be picked up at a bit of an angle, or an implement that has slightly bent pins from hard use, wouldn't be able to engage into the "perfectly sized" lower hooks of the quick hitch.

The hooks are sized larger than they need to be, to make hooking up to implements much easier, and allows for these "errors" or "less than perfect" situations. The downside of always having all this "room" available in the lower hooks, is that without any type of bushing, there is a lot of "slop" or "play" in the connections. Lot's of room for that pin to move around in the big lower hook.

You can tighten up the slop by using bushings, as we know. They leave you the option of which bushing to use, based on how much "slop" is acceptable, verse how easy the QH engages the pins of the implement. If your okay with a lot of slop (some implements don't really need to be perfectly engaged) then you don't need a bushing, and it will be simple to hook up, rarely having to adjust anything.
However, if you want a tighter fit, but still don't want to worry about being "perfectly" lined up, then you can use a cat 1 to cat 2 bushing.

If you want the "best" fit, as he worded it, you use a cat 1 to cat 3 bushing, and it results in an almost "perfect" fit, with any slob in the hitch going unnoticed and making no practical difference. (Only 1/16th of an inch slop).
You can use either a 1 to 2 bushing, then a 2 to 3 bushing over it, or you can use the cat 1 to cat 3 bushings.

He said that Cat 1 to Cat 3 bushing's are "ideal" for a tight fit and no slop.

The bushings have nothing to do with wear on either the QH or the implement pins.



A cat 1 to cat 2 pin, will take up 88% of the "slop" and still provide a good fit, while making it slightly easier to "engage" the pins to the QH. These bushing's are also cheaper, and more than likely, we wouldn't notice much of a difference between the "good" fit of the the cat 2 bushings, and the really tight fit of the cat 3 bushings.

All this info above, is good ONLY for the Landpride QH 15 quick hitch. I hope this clears it up, this straight from the "horses mouth."

Very good information Matt. Thanks for posting and clearing the air. I totally agree with LP's logic about pin fit. It appears Murph has the same setup and he confirmed yesterday that his QH definitely has CAT III hooks. I wonder how many other manufacturers of QH's do this?? I'm guessing not many. I think all of the Chinese made CAT I QHs are CAT II hooks.

Good stuff guys, thanks for posting all the info. It'll definitely help others purchasing QHs to decide what they need. :thumbsup:

 

[RickB]

Air Conditioning is so nice in Texas when it's 100 F and above with high humidity. I used to say that I will never have a tractor w/o a FEL that has SSQA.

Now I have added cab with HVAC and QA on 3 point to that. Actually got to use the heater on the NH earlier this week when it was 20 degrees. The Kubota with roof only never moved.

Rick

Hey, I'd love to have a cab with heat & AC, I just won't write the check to get it. My comment was more or less directed at the guy way up the thread who figures a quick hitch is an unnecessary luxury. Some of us place a higher value on comfort and convenience than others; I fall somewhere in the middle. If somebody had a purchase contract for a cab tractor on my kitchen table last Thursday morning at 6:00 AM when I came back in from plowing the 1/4 mile driveway with my open station Case tractor, I'd probably own something different right now. Today, my interest level in that expense has lessened.

 

[Piston]

If somebody had a purchase contract for a cab tractor on my kitchen table last Thursday morning at 6:00 AM when I came back in from plowing the 1/4 mile driveway with my open station Case tractor, I'd probably own something different right now.

:laughing::laughing::laughing: Can you imagine how dangerous that would be!


Hey Rick,
I've never heard about the Delta Hook system! Thanks for posting that, learn something new every day! Also, thanks for posting it AFTER I made my purchase