Compact articulated loaders

[Industrial Toys]

That Tendo looks an awfull lot like a toolcat!

Are any of them articulated?

One of the great things about a wheel loader is the visability to the tool. I've noticed that some new machines in the marketplace have lost sight of this important aspect and have the operator way back from the loader. When you can see the tips of your forks, that's what it's all about.

 

[Piston]

I've thought a lot about these loaders to run skidsteer attachments. I think it would be great for a mulcher and tree shear.

I wonder how they do with hills and stability verse a skidsteer?

 

[Industrial Toys]

What is a mulcher?

Some of the newer wheel loaders have some flow available out front. Like for a broom. Not sure any have high flow. I have aux hydraulics front and back, but with no great flow. I do run a hydraulic jack hammer and hydraulic diamond chain saw however.

Skid steer and wheel loaders are just such totally different animals. I would not even think about running a wheel loader sideways on a hill. I have gotten myself into scary situations, where I have put the large and heavy hoe extended way out to one side for counterbalance, just to get safely out of a bad situation.

In general wheel loaders are narrow. The Kubota is especially narrow allowing it to get into remarkable places.

John Deere has addressed the stability issue by making the rear axle steer as well. Adds to complexity, cost and ruins the robust solid axle design of a wheel loader!

 

[rd_macgregor]

QUOTE=Industrial Toys;3617710]What is a mulcher?
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Funny you should ask, since just a couple of days ago I was watching mulcher vids. This one fascinated me as much for the tractor as for the mulcher!
Seppi M. SMO Miniforst 175 Demonstration - YouTube[

 

[diesel lover]

QUOTE=Industrial Toys;3617710]What is a mulcher?

Funny you should ask, since just a couple of days ago I was watching mulcher vids. This one fascinated me as much for the tractor as for the mulcher!
Seppi M. SMO Miniforst 175 Demonstration - YouTube[[/QUOTE]

Wow! Its a piece of forestry equipment! How handy !! I have seen tree harvesters that pick up a tree delimb it and buck it in minutes but this is awesome!

 

[Industrial Toys]

That's what I figured. I almost bought a similar tractor made by Holder years ago from a closed bid Federal Auction. I was deeply depressed for a month when I found out I just missed it by a few hundred bucks. And it was cheap! The europeans are so far ahead of North America it's not even funny. How we are stuck on that miserable little steering front wheels, big back wheels configuration. They have four big wheels, articulation, PTOs front and back with different speed options, numerous hydraulic circuits!

If I was tht guy in the video, I'd watch that I don't get clobbered by some widow maker!

I was looking at Seppi machines years ago. The ones I saw will grind rock as well. But way beyond the capacity of my little JD 6200! And super, expensive!

Those retards in these vedeos never seem to check the trees for bird nests!

 

[woodlandfarms]

So I looked at a bunch of these style machines before settling on the PT. The problem with the Gehl / Troboco/ Tendo is they are really only good for flat work place, they go over sideways really quickly, and the arms that extend really will put you on your side. Also, they are ungodly expensive. Figure 30K minimum for the small ones.

I am not dissing the product, they are very cool for the proper application, but they seemed to me to be focused on tight turn, high capacity lift and tall boom height. To acheive that they had to compromise on stability.

To me, the best tractor that is articulated for a small farm is the Antonio Carraro. But, again, 50K entry price was just too darn much.

PT is a swiss army knife, does it all, but none of it perfect.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I looked at those at a dealership. I was dismayed because I found that they were in fact NOT articulated although they certainly looked as if they were. Maybe there are different models.

I have a predjudice against Italian equipment anyway!.

 

[GManBart]

Talk about coincidental timing...just saw this on CL. Man, I could put that to use!

Tractor

 

[rd_macgregor]

As long as you don't ever need a 3 PH or PTO, these would be fine tools. Some jobs it could do lots better than our CUTs, but wouldn't have the versatility we enjoy.

 

[jmc]

Bobcat made a 2000 back in the 80's. I'd like to have one:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FrQBitzgieU&desktop_uri=/watch?v=FrQBitzgieU

 

[bcp]

Someone should make a farm-oriented compact loader with a PTO and 3pt hitch. The hitch alone wouldn't be very hard to add at the factory. There is a backhoe mount back there.

Bruce

 

[D7E]

Someone should make a farm-oriented compact loader with a PTO and 3pt hitch. The hitch alone wouldn't be very hard to add at the factory. There is a backhoe mount back there.

Bruce

MERLO , LANDINI and many others already do

Ploegen / Pflügen / Ploughing with a Merlo Multifarmer 30.9 Top2 + Steeno 4 furrow - YouTube

 

[MBTRAC]

Bobcat made a 2000 back in the 80's. I'd like to have one:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FrQBitzgieU&desktop_uri=/watch?v=FrQBitzgieU

Thanks for link - We've owned exactly the same Bobcat model for years (3rd photo below) & I'm yet to come across another (which I'd buy tomorrow), they seem to be as rare as "hens teeth".

We also run on the farms two other compact articulated loaders (CALs) , a Kubota Rseries & the Mitsui in the frst two photo's below (weighing in @c.1.2Tonne it easily fits on a light trailer behind a Landcruiser).

CALs "punch" usually well above their weight compared with the skid steers we run, but like most things they do some tasks well & some not so great, having used them with4/1 buckets, forks, PHD's & QR backhoes:
- the big advantages with CALs vs similar HP Skiddies are they're a much easier "ride" on the operator, lighter footed/nimble(especially with clip on dual wheels in softer ground), don't churn up the ground so much, lift more weight with higher reach, ease of maintenance/repair, ease of entry & speed of operation + somewhat more ground clearance
- main downsides are, the centre of gravity is a little higher (though generally still stable in most conditions,except when turning @ higher lifts), larger turning circle, far less forgiving on an unskilled "driver" as it takes a while to graduate to an "operator"

 

[jmc]

The 2000 I tried to buy last year was from its second owner (1987) and it looked a little rough. Last year, another guy told him it was worth about US$10,000 and when I went back to offer him quite a bit less, he had already sold it for $9000. It had front hydraulics, a 4 in 1 bucket and the Bobcat quick attach. Would have been a nice solution for an occasional forklift, property maintenance, and snow removal at the shop.

 

[Chrissleurink]

Looking at 3pt hitch+ pto, GIANT loaders have the option for that.

 

[Piston]

Looking at 3pt hitch+ pto, GIANT loaders have the option for that.
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That's pretty cool.

 

[art]

The wheel loaders according to numbers in Europe are the skid steer here and vice-versa! The reasons are the same as the high speed tractors in Europe are often used like trucks for hauling goods.
Other then the speed they also are designed for about 10,000 hours of use before to many repairs are made and selling four brands of skid steers I can tell you it is a rare one to go that far without putting money into a skid steer.. Not just the fact of tires needing to be replaced on the "skid" steer in a thousand hours or less normally they are a hydraulically driven machine and costly to operate compared to the wheel loaders. We have been selling two brands of wheel loaders in our mix one articulate and one wheel steer and where we do get the people to change over they enjoy the lower operating costs although they are not quite as maneuverable as a skid steer. The price is higher getting in but by the hour they are cheaper to own.

 

[dirt ditch]

We had a John Deere 244H at work a few years ago. It was similar to this one.

244J Wheel Loader from John Deere

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[Industrial Toys]

That Giant with the 3PH has deffinitely got my attention. Any idea if the PTS is mechanically coupled or is it hydraulic? PTO Speed options? That would be one sweet machine!

EDIT: I looked on the Web Site. I have no patience for trying to find things on Web Sites. Usually just look for an 800 number and tell them to send me a link! I would like to know the exact model name and number for that machine pictured with the PTO.

I was at an Auction a few years back. There were a few brand new Chinese (or maybe Korean) Wheel loaders up for Auction. Plastic still on the seats. I don't remember the names, but I had never heard of them. Don't get me wrong, I find any wheel loader a thing of beauty, but these were kind of chinsy! I don't think they sold, and they could have been had cheap, like below $20,000 if I remember correctly. Somebody could have had a **** of a deal or screwed themselves royally! Who knows?

Anyone see the Youtube Video of the five (or so) year old kid running the wheel loader? Something to see! No bubble wrapped kid there!