Advice for building my own Cylinders?

   / Advice for building my own Cylinders?
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#11  
Well thanks one and all for the advice. :)

I'll be able to get high-grade stainless hardened without a problem. I'll be happy to hone cylinder bores too..
8/10 of the cylinders will be doing all their hard work in tension, so buckling stainless isn't such a worry, but burring up the surface is certainly a valid concern.

The problem is that Sweden has a population that would fail to fill London properly (around 2 million people short of London's population) and while there are benefits to that, the amount of people who want a cheap cylinder are few, and the competition between vendors is weak.... So far, all 3 cheapish cylinders I've bought here have been of terrible quality, and I've had to rebuild them all.

The very base model, shortest stroke, smallest bore, and with a pair of rattly spherical bearings at the ends will set me back around $230 :eek:
By the time the stroke lengths I want are factored in, I'm staring a $3500 bill in the face. And from where I'm stood, that's one ugly bill.

I'll let you know how I get on sourcing materials, and I'll throw a CAD model up here before (if) I build anything so you guys can pour over it and spot any problems. :)

Thanks for your time! :D

A little footnote... with regards to it being Sweden and corrosion resistance being needed... It's actually pretty mild down here in the south, and salt isn't used on the roads. I have a friend who lives in Pennsylvania.... and every day I look at our weather forecast and look at his too.... I have snow-jealousy! :D
It is however fairly bleak and wet for 6 months or so... :rolleyes:
 
   / Advice for building my own Cylinders? #12  
Here is my suggestion. Find an old piece of machinery with several cylinders on it. Then all you have to do is cut off the base of the tube, shorthen to desired lenghts and reweld the cap. The rod end will only need to be cut off as well and a you can rethread or just weld the clevis back on it. Depending on length of the cylinders you find, you might be able to make two cylinders out of one. This would save a ton on barrels and shafts and cut your piston and seal purchases in half.
 
   / Advice for building my own Cylinders?
  • Thread Starter
#13  
Here is my suggestion. Find an old piece of machinery with several cylinders on it. Then all you have to do is cut off the base of the tube, shorthen to desired lenghts and reweld the cap. The rod end will only need to be cut off as well and a you can rethread or just weld the clevis back on it. Depending on length of the cylinders you find, you might be able to make two cylinders out of one. This would save a ton on barrels and shafts and cut your piston and seal purchases in half.

I've looked into that too, but the availability of cylinders in the diameter I want really isn't that large... It might be an option for a couple of bits though...


Another question...
The two main designs of cylinder seem to have either...
- A single composite o-ring/teflon wiper ringlike this one and a guide ring on either side
- two wiper seals like this and a single guide ring.

Which do you guys prefer/recommend? The cost of parts works out pretty much the same... and each is as easy to make as the other...
 
   / Advice for building my own Cylinders? #14  
I've looked into that too, but the availability of cylinders in the diameter I want really isn't that large... It might be an option for a couple of bits though...


Another question...
The two main designs of cylinder seem to have either...
- A single composite o-ring/teflon wiper ringlike this one and a guide ring on either side
- two wiper seals like this and a single guide ring.

Which do you guys prefer/recommend? The cost of parts works out pretty much the same... and each is as easy to make as the other...

polys or wiper seals as you are calling them. Changing out a large leveling cyl from o-ring to polys right now. much better design for durability. CJ
 
   / Advice for building my own Cylinders?
  • Thread Starter
#15  
polys or wiper seals as you are calling them. Changing out a large leveling cyl from o-ring to polys right now. much better design for durability. CJ

Excellent. It looked like the most advanced and neat option - and a nicer set of shapes to machine too. :)

Thanks Again.
 

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