Apple hires 800 at $8/hr

   / Apple hires 800 at $8/hr #61  
Don't give up the ship, that one hasn't sailed yet.
 
   / Apple hires 800 at $8/hr #62  
First, I own an iPad and like it, so I'm not bashing Apple from a PC standpoint. It's just that I have always thought Apple Corporation treated employees like they were only there to help Apple stockpile money. Money first, people last. So intent are they on commandeering the phone/tablet/laptop/music/and-anything-else-they-can-manage market that they will subject their employees to ridicule, admonishment, long hours and low wages to get there. Yes, they make a nice product, but at what cost? This precedent was set by Jobs and continues to this day from what I can see. The local Apple campus (in Elk Grove, CA) has announced the hiring of 800 new people. According to the local news, all the jobs start at 8 bucks an hour. This from the world's most valued company with how many billions in the bank? That's a whopping net total of $1,280 per month without overtime. That's enough to buy an iPhone with about half left over for a tank of gas and a bag of groceries. Yet, there are hundreds of people in line hoping to score one of these jobs which is an indication of the wonderful shape our economy isn't in. I hope they all live with their parents. :confused:
Companies are in business to make money, not sure if you really understand that, people get payed by what their work contributes to that, in other words you get payed what your work is worth to the company. The money they have banked, is not for charity, or to raise salaries, it's the money of the people who own the company, it's theirs. Fairly simple. HS
 
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   / Apple hires 800 at $8/hr #63  
The US is in the business of government. If it can't pay its bills it has choices. Cut spending, raise revenues. It needs to do both- eliminate waste, from overseas military bases, to this stupid loan to the Ukraine, to disability payments to unqualified individual. It needs to stop subsidizing corporate america. It needs to reign in congressional waste and junket spending. But it also needs to pay its bills. The bulk of the money it takIt needs to raise the taxes on these folks and pay its bills until the deficit is gone. Then it need to put in a balanced budget amendment. After that it can cut taxes. But the price of doing business in this country, making use of the services has to be paid. It has to be paid through taxes. There is no free ride. Corporations have to pay taxes.
In a transaction, the buyer holds the cards. Somehow we have got it backwards and say it is the corporation that holds the cards. Read them the riot act, they'll pay up- because everyone wants to sell to us, we still are the world's biggest marketplace.
 
   / Apple hires 800 at $8/hr #64  
Companies are in business to make money, not sure if you really understand that, people get payed by what their work contributes to that, in other words you get payed what your work is worth to the company. The money they have banked, is not for charity, or to raise salaries, it's the money of the people who own the company, it's theirs. Fairly simple. HS

Spoken like a true share holder... people deserve a living wage, not a starvation diet of a pay check that we in turn subsidize with our tax dollars. Wally world can afford more, and should step up.
 
   / Apple hires 800 at $8/hr #65  
I'm not a shareholder of any company...

America has one of the greatest safety nets of any nation... Subsidized Housing, School Lunches, Free Education, Cell Phones, Scholarships, Discounted Utilities, Discounted Auto Insurance, over 2 years unemployment many I know received... etc.

I guess it will never be enough.

People that believe they are worth more should open up shop and persue that dream.

No one in my family has ever had a pension... we basically work until we can't.

My biggest issue is not big business standing in my way... it's regulations preventing me from working at home or hoops I have to go through to run a business.

The city actually came down on a women that sold vegetables she raised in her backyard... another friend moved to the county because he was not allowed to work as a CPA from home...
 
   / Apple hires 800 at $8/hr #66  
I'm not a shareholder of any company...

America has one of the greatest safety nets of any nation... Subsidized Housing, School Lunches, Free Education, Cell Phones, Scholarships, Discounted Utilities, Discounted Auto Insurance, over 2 years unemployment many I know received... etc.

I guess it will never be enough.

People that believe they are worth more should open up shop and persue that dream.

No one in my family has ever had a pension... we basically work until we can't.

My biggest issue is not big business standing in my way... it's regulations preventing me from working at home or hoops I have to go through to run a business.

The city actually came down on a women that sold vegetables she raised in her backyard... another friend moved to the county because he was not allowed to work as a CPA from home...

Well said. :thumbsup:
 
   / Apple hires 800 at $8/hr #67  
I'm not a shareholder of any company...

America has one of the greatest safety nets of any nation... Subsidized Housing, School Lunches, Free Education, Cell Phones, Scholarships, Discounted Utilities, Discounted Auto Insurance, over 2 years unemployment many I know received... etc.

I guess it will never be enough.

People that believe they are worth more should open up shop and persue that dream.

No one in my family has ever had a pension... we basically work until we can't.

My biggest issue is not big business standing in my way... it's regulations preventing me from working at home or hoops I have to go through to run a business.

The city actually came down on a women that sold vegetables she raised in her backyard... another friend moved to the county because he was not allowed to work as a CPA from home...

Some people do that. If they succeed, they usually need employees.

The co-reality is that Apple or whoever, needs 800 people to make their business function. Anyone with an iGizmo needs them too.
 
   / Apple hires 800 at $8/hr #68  
True... the big push around here has been for Apple to bring back manufacturing... I doubt it will ever be like the 80's when every apple computer was made here.

On the other hand... many of those pressuring apple and now saying the jobs offered are not adequate...

I think there would be total agreement on all sides if those jobs go unfilled...

Apple sells more product outside the US... so they really can go where economy of scale and production are optimized.

Others in the valley are taking a wait and see on exactly how Apple makes out...

I don't think labor problems/issues are the way to increase production jobs here.
 
   / Apple hires 800 at $8/hr #69  
Capitalism is based on free market forces to determine values of things within the markets, to include the price off labor. If you don't like making $8 an hour there are choices. You could improve your position by obtaining a more valuable skill set. You could move to where your skill set is less available, thus increasing it's value. You could even do what Jobs an Wozniak did and start your own company. But don't wine because "its not a living wage" or "its not enough money." Apparently that market in that area will bear about $8/hr for that skill set. Its not evil, its not personal, its not even about the people: Its business.
 
   / Apple hires 800 at $8/hr #70  
Spoken like a true share holder... people deserve a living wage, not a starvation diet of a pay check that we in turn subsidize with our tax dollars. Wally world can afford more, and should step up.
Yep. That's what we need. Government taking over Walmart and forcing them to do the peoples' will.....
 

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