Missing 777

   / Missing 777 #191  
Here's an article with much less sinister speculation than what we've been seeing so far...
A Startlingly Simple Theory About the Missing Malaysia Airlines Jet | Autopia | Wired.com

The linked "smoke/fire" scenario makes sense except for one "fact" -- if the news reports are correct, the last voice message occurred after the plane had turned. It seems to me that the crew would have informed controllers of the smoke/fire problem rather than signing off with "good night."

A law enforcement official told CNN that the plane's programmed change in direction was entered at least 12 minutes before the plane's verbal sign-off with air traffic controllers at 1:19 a.m. Malaysia Airlines Flight 370: How do planes change flight paths? - CNN.com

Steve
 
   / Missing 777 #192  
Maybe they were flying the airplane, not the autopilot flying the airplane. Pilots can do that, ya know? I am not familiar with the 777, but some equipment has cable controls. Some have hydraulic boost to assist, but if hydraulics are lost, one can still fly the aircraft. Redundancy is supposed to be built into the equipment. Hand flying without the hydraulics can be a little more difficult, but certainly not impossible, and most train for it in the simulator.
The 777 is all fly by wire. No physical link between the controls and the control surfaces. From the Boeing 777 info page:
http://www.boeing.com/boeing/commercial/777family/pf/pf_facts.page said:
The flight-control system for the 777 airplane is different from those on other Boeing airplane designs. Rather than have the airplane rely on cables to move the ailerons, elevator, and rudder, Boeing designed the 777 with fly-by-wire technology. As a result, the 777 uses wires to carry electrical signals from the pilot control wheel, column, and pedals to a primary flight computer.
From the "Boeing B-777: Fly-By-Wire Flight Controls" PDF:
http://www.davi.ws/avionics/TheAvionicsHandbook_Cap_11.pdf said:
As noted previously, the 777 flight deck utilizes standard flight deck controls; a control column, wheel, and rudder pedals that are mechanically linked between the Captain’s and First Officer’s controls. This precludes any conflicting input between the Captain and First Officer into the Primary Flight Control System. Instead of the pilot controls driving quadrants and cables, as in a conventional system, they are attached to electrical transducers that convert mechanical displacement into electrical signals. A gradient control actuator is attached to the two control column feel units. These units provide the tactile feel of the control column by proportionally increasing the amount of force the pilot experiences during a maneuver with an increase in airspeed. This is consistent with a pilot’s experience in conventional commercial jet transports. Additionally, the flight deck controls are fitted with what are referred to as ‘‘backdrive actuators.” As the name implies, these actuators backdrive the flight deck controls during autopilot operation. This feature is also consistent with what a pilot is used to in conventionally controlled aircraft and allows the pilot to monitor the operation of the autopilot via immediate visual feedback of the pilot controls that is easily recognizable.

Aaron Z
 
   / Missing 777 #193  
Problem with that theory seems to be that they turned off their communications and tracking information before anything happened. Seems like most on the radio are suggesting a fight took place in the cockpit and that's the reason for the altitude changes. Then either the plane flew itself after they both knocked each other out, or the bad guy won and he kept going to where he was planning on going. Odds of a fire are very slim and the reaction of the pilots don't fit with what they should have done.

It's interesting that the pilot had the simulator in his house and that he deleted information on what he had been doing with it.

Why wont Thailand share their radar information? Do they have anything? Wonder if those countries are afraid of neighboring countries finding out that they don't have good radar coverage and it's more important to ensure they don't find out then to acknowledge it and admit that they don't have a clue who is flying through their airspace?

Eddie
 
   / Missing 777 #194  
Many, many left over large airports in that part of the world from WWII, Korea war, Vietnam area that could conceal a B777 for a long time.

mark
 
   / Missing 777 #196  
The 777 is all fly by wire. No physical link between the controls and the control surfaces. From the Boeing 777 info page:

From the "Boeing B-777: Fly-By-Wire Flight Controls" PDF:


Aaron Z
Not true... on the 777 there is a mechanical cable backup such that the pilot can take physical control.
 
   / Missing 777 #197  
The 777 is all fly by wire. No physical link between the controls and the control surfaces. From the Boeing 777 info page:

From the "Boeing B-777: Fly-By-Wire Flight Controls" PDF:


Aaron Z

One must remember that sometimes in these affairs black is white, up is down. (Example: See item #8 of Operation Northwoods manual http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods) Did the real plane even leave the airport? Here's yet another crazy possibility: Maybe the pilot (in the plane) weren't even flying it after they signed off. I've heard several reports that the plane was "in the shop" just weeks before for it's "routine service check-out". Yet when I try to google info on this: nothing. Would be good to know: Where? By who? Doesn't seem like it would be too hard to splice in some "remote controlled black boxes" in those (fly by) wire controls.

Ah, the possibilities are endless. Fun speculation, unfortunately they're hundreds of real lives involved.
 
   / Missing 777 #198  
Not true... on the 777 there is a mechanical cable backup such that the pilot can take physical control.

I am in no way questioning you, but it's just hard to believe that any human would have the strength to mechanically control any flight controls on a plane that large. Is there at least some kind of assist? And if so, what powers it? Some sort of electric-hydraulic power source?
 
   / Missing 777 #199  

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