Uh oh, cracked block

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caferacermike

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So uh yeah seems that after a long summer of overheating I'm now on to a cracked block.

After spending all summer doing little repairs to the Beaver to get it to stop overheating, finally got it good late in the fall. Seems I neglected to check to make sure the antifreeze mix was correct after one of the last pokings. Went out a week ago to check on the tractor only to find some nice 3" long vertical cracks between the water jacket and the outside. My friend said the tractor fired up right away and ran well for about 10 minutes before starting to bog. Then it stalled. That's when he decided to do a full vehicle check, instead of before like he should have. Not worried about the engine. Heck I could have cooked bacon on that motor several times last summer I had gotten it so hot and it would quit running. Next day it would run like a top again. Motor is not locked.

So I fear an engine teardown as parts are so scarce. I'm a put in new rings and bearings kind of guy once it's torn down. So I'm considering attempting to weld the cracks in place. I'm sure it's just grey cast iron so it won't be a fun job. I'm looking to try the slow and cold approach. Basically fill the 180 mig with 307 stainless wire and just tack weld it all the way making one tack every 30 minutes. Basically never getting the cast iron hot.

I'm also considering some of those dirty cast iron brazing rods I've seen at $30 a rod and use a MAPP torch. Maybe brass filler?

I'm all ears. This thing is tough as nails and would hate to part it out over a crack in the water jacket. I figure if my welding doesn't work, I can alway JB epoxy and see if that works.

So how would you go about it?
 
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  • Thread Starter
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Ok so not one single reply?

Well whatever I fixed it.
 
   / Uh oh, cracked block #3  
I'm no welding expert...hardly even a novice. So any advice from me would have been unwarranted. How did you end up repairing this crack?
 
   / Uh oh, cracked block #4  
All I know about welding cast iron is that it is tricky. If it were me I'd try to find another block. I know you can't just go to the local junk yard and pick one up, but they are out there. I wouldn't count on a crack repair on a block, but that's just me because of my lack of experience in that area. Seems like it should be possible though depending on the area of the crack, etc.
 
   / Uh oh, cracked block #5  
So you made duplicate threads and are complaining that you only got replies to one?
 
   / Uh oh, cracked block
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So you made duplicate threads and are complaining that you only got replies to one?

Actually Brad, I had let this one ride out for a day and a half, noticed it had been read over 100 times, hadn't had a single reply, then went on to the welding forum to ask about welding cast iron. If I hadn't, obviously I'd have been forked waiting for replies over here. I first asked in my specific tractor forum because there are some serious fabricators over here that make all kinds of crazy improvements to these old obsolete tractors. I also asked over here because of the possibility of really causing problems to a tractor that can't be replaced


The only reason I made a reply was because I was astonished that after 250 views not a single reply was made. Now that it is fixed, by saying it is, if anyone ever does have this issue then using the search function may lead them to this thread and from there I can direct them to my repair.

However, brad, if you feel I've somehow broken the rules just let me know and I'll do what I can to get every thread removed.

And by the way, where was I complaining? I asked a question, I was about to link to the other thread for Skylark but I guess that would offend so sorry Skylark having similar threads in two completely different parts of this forum seem to be a bad thing so I don't want to continue any further with this thread
 
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I must have missed it on the the welding page...Glad you got it worked out.
 
   / Uh oh, cracked block #8  
Ok so not one single reply?

Well whatever I fixed it.

Fits my definition of a complaint. No rules broken. It might have been a little nicer to just say "Hey, I got it fixed!" and post a link to the other thread.

I have in the past been disappointed by the lack of responses to my posts but I've always felt that I got more than my money's worth.
 

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