Big prices for little tractors

[California]

We must have the most expensive Yanmars in the US! Here is what's typical in Northern California.

Current Craigslist postings for YM155 YM1300, and similar small 'garden-size' Yanmars - 15 hp engine & similar:

Yanmar155D Tractor $4000 w tiller

Yanmar 1300 $3500 w dedicated tiller (+Needs 3-point kit, $200)

Yanmar Tractor 1300 D For Sale! $4800 w loader & implements

yanmar 186 D 4x4 shottle with loader $6400 YM186D w new Coldwater loader (US 18 hp, Powershift)

Yanmar Tractor $6500 - YM1500?? 2wd w loader

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/grd/4467626862.html $2500 YM1300?? w tiller (looks thrashed)

http://chico.craigslist.org/grd/4459332459.html $3350 or $5350 w implements - YM1510D (18 engine hp, Powershift)

http://chico.craigslist.org/grd/4454216303.html $7,000 YM1300D w loader & tiller

 

[dusty3030]

Similar to asking prices in AR, TN, MS Not many for sale at any given time either. Small old Fords and Massey's are a dime a dozen and are a better bargain around here.

 

[California]

I'm surprised Yanmars are that high in other parts of the country when you have decent alternatives there. I wish we had that breadth of choices. Something like a MF135 here would start at $5,000 for thrashed and needing attention, and prices go up from there if it is ready to put in service.

 

[Neat 1500]

MF135 here would start at $5,000 for thrashed

Dont feel bad, its the same here....:thumbdown:

 

[clemsonfor]

The down side to the old 8n and massey and even newer fords and such through the 70-80s is that there fuel hogs!!! most of us mow and dont pull plows all day long so the extra weight does not help much and even a decent older ford etc still wont turn a much larger bushhog and will use 2x the fuel to do it.

My boss has a JD 1020 from the 60s and that thing uses a 5ft bushhog and he says in thick stuff its all that gas motor wants and from talking to him he uses 2x the fuel that i do on my ym2000 for a given area mowed. Even when were turning the exact same finish mower he uses way more fuel...he is done faster as he can go faster as my tractor does not have enough motor to spin mower and go fast at the same time but still!!!!

 

[dusty3030]

I'm talking like Shibaura Ford / New Hollands and 3 digit diesel Massey's

Example - 1715 NEW HOLLAND 27 HP

Tractor

 

[California]

Small old Fords and Massey's are a dime a dozen and are a better bargain around here....

... 3 digit diesel Massey's ... Example - ... Tractor

Massey ferguson tractor 72 model has 3 cly diesel great tractor works great. Runs like new and has new front and rear tires. Asking 3800.00 firm.

It hurts to look. Even includes a thousand dollars of new tires? The price here would be double that for lesser condition.


Here is the first comparable I found. I guess it explains why the Yanmar prices are as high as they are; it is due to a limited supply of solid old American iron here.

Massey Furgeson 35 Tractor - $7500

Massey Furgeson 35 Tractor. 3 cyl Perkins diesel. Auxiliary hydraulics, 3 point hitch, new seat and steering wheel. Needs exhaust manifold gaskets. Includes 6' blade, 6' york rake, post hole digger with 6" auger and finish mower. Very little use on implements. Have been deployed for most of the last 5 years and has been sitting.

 

[sd455dan]

The down side to the old 8n and massey and even newer fords and such through the 70-80s is that there fuel hogs!!! most of us mow and dont pull plows all day long so the extra weight does not help much and even a decent older ford etc still wont turn a much larger bushhog and will use 2x the fuel to do it.

totally disagree on the Ford diesels built back then- most of the 3 and 4 cylinder diesels are very fuel efficient and were even advertised as some of the most fuel efficient diesels built at the time . The 3000 are rated at 15.59 in horsepower-Hours per gallon a very respectable fuel economy # for their vintage.

your right about them being heavier and pulling heavier implements better since even the average 3000 can produce over 25 horsepower and 118 lb.ft.@ 1150 rpm which does allow the tractor to worked without running wide open to get anything done... obviously running a mower will require the tractor to be run @ pto speed

Now if you are only talking gasoline tractors - then yes they were not the best on fuel

 

[buickanddeere]

That is why dealers are selling so many new compact utility tractors . Warranty, no big buck repairs for years. Reliable, modern , fits in a standard sized vehicle parking spot. And can be trailed on an class III u-haul bumper hitch.

 

[newbury]

Also the alternatives, new cheap chinese crate tractors have gone away with tier 4.

 

[California]

That is why dealers are selling so many new compact utility tractors . ... And can be trailed on an class III u-haul bumper hitch.

These little ones can go in a 4x8 . 100 miles in 105 degree weather, no problem, not overloaded.

Well, sometimes you hit the limit of what's safe and reasonable. This trip home with the other one I chose 100% back roads because the related freeway (US101) always has traffic.

 

[California]

Also the alternatives, new cheap chinese crate tractors have gone away with tier 4.

No more Jinma's etc? So now Kioti etc from Korea are the least expensive new tractors? That's a big step up in cost (and quality).

 

[deepNdirt]

It's called ( cost and demand ) I've been noticing over the past 15 years or so, for a under 20 Hp. compact tractor 15 years ago would have cost 2,500 the same tractor now is priced around 4,000...... I believe some folks seen the upcoming market 15 years ago for the compact tractors and jumped on the wagon,

 

[clemsonfor]

Also the alternatives, new cheap chinese crate tractors have gone away with tier 4.

Hate this

 

[Whiskey]

I just posted mine over the weekend for sale, there are a couple in the area that are listed for less

Compact Yanmar YM187 Tractor

 

[chriswheeler]

California, when we crossed paths over at Sacramento Tractor that day, I'd just bought the YM 3000 from them for $4000. Higher bill once the implements were added in, but all in all, best deal around I could find after a year of searching. After retiring and moving to Nevada, I find prices are much better on this side of the border if you know what you want, and take the time to shop around. I suspect, like almost anything else, prices are higher in California. I came across lots of scams when I was looking around before buying at Sac. Tractor. I made it a rule I'd only buy something I could drive up to, kick the tires, and drive away with in the trailer. That rule seamed to keep me out of trouble so far. I guess I was lucky to find Van and her brother at Sacramento Tractor for my first, to bad they are out of business. My current tractor was a Nevada tractor, a 970TLB 1400 hours and the #8A backhoe. Found the same tractor in several places in CA, same hours and condition, starting $4K more. Thinking better pricing can be found in areas out of state with less population and with a lesser demand.
Chris

 

[clemsonfor]

Taxes and cost of living make everything more in California. Its simple math if houses wadges and food cost more there so will everything else!!

Like guns...i was shopping for a small conceal carry pistol. I found what i wanted and ordered it. I paid over $100 less than someone did in california several years ago for the very same gun!!! And we all know what the recent years have done to gun prices, if you dont they have increased them. Theirs was bought prior to the increases as well!!!!

Tractors i cant see to be any different, there only X number of yanmars and way more buyers that have the cash to buy what they want.

 

[Trkrd]

You get what you pay for.Our old Yannies are pretty much bullet proof. I wouldn't trade mine for a brand new Chinese anything! I've pushed mine to the limit (and sometimes over) for years and it's never let me down.

 

[California]

Here's an example of what we see for inexpensive old tractors in California. Surplused-out from big agribusiness is far more common than a tractor from family farm use.

These were likely used a few weeks per year by a contract harvesting company to haul grape gondolas in the Central Valley. (inexpensive winegrape region). Now he's advertising his used equipment in the Napa Craigslist. ($$$$$$$ winegrapes). Clever!

I'll bet the first problem a buyer finds is that they didn't need decent brakes in the dead-flat vineyards they came from but they could get real exciting pulling a heavy trailer out of a Napa hillside vineyard.

Craigslist: Ford Ferguson Tractors Philift Gondolas Trailers

One of the seller's pictures:

 

[chriswheeler]

Ran across 2 tractor lots up in Yuba City that looked like your pic. Mostly old 8-9N's, and tired, no effort to repair or restore. Prices went from $1500 for non-op junk to $4500 for running both places. Think my $4000 spent on the VN referb YM3000 with a Koyker 160 loader was still the best deal by far. The Yanmar I bought needed work over the years, but still proved itself to be a bargain. There is a great market there in CA. for decent used tractors, just not many there, and the ones that are priced well above other places when I was looking 10 years ago. The confidence Yanmar gave with their YM3000 helped me buy it's replacement, a JD970 that came off the same Yanmar production line. Think selling their gray market tractors here is good for the Yanmar name. They have a place with the small farmer or property owner. I'm somewhat surprised that they fight this or can't seam to figure this market out. If someone was thinking over in Japan, they would have picked up on this idea and be doing a quality referb themselves in Japan and selling here because of the demand. The market for used would end up not conflicting with their new tractors, I think it's a different market. Few small land owners will go out and buy a new $25K tractor to mow, move a little snow a few times a year. Lots of people would spent in the $2K range for that, about the price of a good riding mower from a big box store.
Chris