Must use Mahindra Brand fluids or void warranty?

   / Must use Mahindra Brand fluids or void warranty? #11  
I read that law one time in a bike magazine. Harley was trying to stick people on oil and filters. I threw that out several times when tractor shopping. One salesman backed off and said it would be good idea to use their hydraulic filter because after markets would exploded.
One question why do you have 47 hrs on your tractor and don't have a grease gun yet.
 
   / Must use Mahindra Brand fluids or void warranty?
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I read that law one time in a bike magazine. Harley was trying to stick people on oil and filters. I threw that out several times when tractor shopping. One salesman backed off and said it would be good idea to use their hydraulic filter because after markets would exploded.
One question why do you have 47 hrs on your tractor and don't have a grease gun yet.

I suppose because I bought the tractor because I had a lot of work piling up that needed done ASAP - instead of renting. I have been on that work since I got it (not all tractor work) and have been busting ***** pretty much non-stop and haven't had equipment prior to this that needed a grease gun. My initial scan over the manual didn't impress on me that much needed to be done for maintenance prior to 50 hours. So now I'm getting my 50 hours maintenance stuff together before I reach it. The tractor has not 'complained' thus far so I didn't see any issue to address.

Overall, the whole tractor experience I new to me and I have to learn as I go... When I have time - which is stretched very thin.
 
   / Must use Mahindra Brand fluids or void warranty?
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I think the "2 way" bit is the fact it will accept tubes of grease as a cartridge or it can be bulk loaded without a cardboard tube.

Yes, I would find the EP2. I am not sure what all the differences are exactly, but I know my manual specified EP2 for all the backhoe, loader, axle, 3pt, etc. In looking, many of the manufacturers make EP0, EP1, and EP2. Here is a (slow to load) PDF about the mobile1 EP0 EP1 and EP2 greases and the only difference I see are in the "penetration" rating.

Ok, I've been studying the lubrication stuff on everything for a while tonight and am not sure I understand what I'm finding. First, I need to lubricate more than I have! I found the following in the 3535 manual:
GreaseSpecs.PNG

I highlighted and such - but I don't know if this means EP2 or not. I see that SEA (NLGI) GC-LB is recommended. None of the temperature limits really fit out area - but if I had to pick, we probably fit into SAE (NLGI) #2 the best - although we have been as low as -20F (-32F with wind-chill). In summers, we can get near 100F. So... Anyway, does this mean EP2? Or just EP? The Lucas Grease I listed earlier says it is NLGI GC-LB and has a high operating temperature and has exceptional extreme pressure characteristics. See Datasheet here.

But, I cannot find any real specs in the backhoe or loader manuals. The BH says "...with SAE Multi-Purpose Lubricant or an equivalent SAE Multi Purpose type grease." That is the only reference to grease type I could find. On the FEL, the only thing I found was "...use only high quality lubricants". I couldn't find any other references in the Operator's Manuals of either of these units.

What do you think? Does 3535 not need EP2 across the board? Am I missing something somewhere in the manuals?
 
   / Must use Mahindra Brand fluids or void warranty? #14  
I'm not ranting at you. I guess it just seems odd since I have 4 or 5 grease guns. I keep one in my backhoe. One in my mule for the tractors. And the rest are in my shop.
I've had my Workmaster 3 weeks and it has 38 hrs on it. I grease it every 10 hrs by the meter. Some say 8 hrs. But counting by 10 on the meter is easier to keep up with.
When you buy a gun get the flex tube if one doesn't come with it. When you buy grease buy the case. You will be surprised how fast it goes. And if your book doesn't show where all the fitting are, look it over real good. You will find fittings everywhere. Oil and grease are the blood of your machine. Greasing a machine is like brushing your teeth. You mite get away without doing for awhile but it's gonna catch up one day.
Oh and don't take the bottom off of the grease gun.
 
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I'm not ranting at you. I guess it just seems odd since I have 4 or 5 grease guns. I keep one in my backhoe. One in my mule for the tractors. And the rest are in my shop.
I've had my Workmaster 3 weeks and it has 38 hrs on it. I grease it every 10 hrs by the meter. Some say 8 hrs. But counting by 10 on the meter is easier to keep up with.
When you buy a gun get the flex tube if one doesn't come with it. When you buy grease buy the case. You will be surprised how fast it goes. And if your book doesn't show where all the fitting are, look it over real good. You will find fittings everywhere. Oil and grease are the blood of your machine. Greasing a machine is like brushing your teeth. You mite get away without doing for awhile but it's gonna catch up one day.
Oh and don't take the bottom off of the grease gun.

I get it... Basically my background is computer work - IT all the way. Heavy equipment is a new realm to be that become necessitated by the house and property we bought. Small property but needs a lot of work and the house... If we didn't have to live in it, it would have been much easier to tear it down and start over. Completely redoing the foundation, replacing all the main beams holding up the house, etc... All trying to work around our jobs, collecting, cutting, and piling firewood and trying to keep from running up against weather. Last fall we had 1/4 of our 1st floor completely removed and exposed to the elements when our first freeze came. It's all just been a constant race. Getting this tractor actually put me behind schedule for absolutely required work before being back into the cold this winter. No due to the tractor itself, but because I was going to rent equipment, but once I detailed out how long, how often, etc... I was putting an awful lot of money down the drain. So I decided to get the tractor with FEL and BH. But the whole process of changing direction, figuring out which tractor, finding a dealer of choice, financing, and waiting for delivery all set me back nearly a month during prime working time.

So, I'm stressed out. I didn't realize I missed the lubricating hours - I paid too much attention to the 3535 manual for maintenance and didn't really notice the maintenance stuff specific to the FEL and BH.

I'll get on it. Thanks for the info and queuing me to re-look at the maintenance stuff on these units better.

Things like that happen - being in the IT area - I can probably do the same with some of you guys though ;)

When was the last time you opened the cover on your computers and cleared the dust out of the CPU and power supply fans? Cleared dust from the drive bays? Running the computer on and properly spec'd battery backup system, etc...

;)

Ha! Just teasing! Although that stuff really should be done probably once a year or so - more or less depending on operating conditions - and IMHO - battery backups and proper surge suppression on all electrical pathways should be protected - not just power. Anyway, you see me point, this is an area new to me and it's not so obvious to a newbie like myself that I'd get it all right from the beginning without some poking and prodding.

My BH manual says lubricate every 8 hours and the FEL says lubricate every 5 hours. I would never have imagined these things would need lubed that frequently. Make me wonder how our poor vehicles survive.

Anyway, thanks, no hard feelings and sorry for the slight head biting!

On the way to TSC today to get this stuff - although - I'm still not sure about which grease to get as my manuals are clear as mud on the topic. EP, EP2, NLGI #? - Sysop says EP2 stated in his manual, but I can't find where it says that in my manuals. Unless SAE (NLGI) #2 is EP2 - but I'm inclined to think not, as the #2 seems to be an indicator of ambient temperature ranges more so than assembly temperatures and stresses. I will take my spec sheet to TSC and see what they think too.
 
   / Must use Mahindra Brand fluids or void warranty? #16  
I use oil, grease and hydraulic fluid sold at Tractor Supply for my Mahindra 5525.
The motor oil is rated for use in diesel engines. The weight is what's recommended in the user manual.
The hydraulic fluid conforms to the John Deere 303 spec (per my dealer).
The grease is Mystic brand.
 
   / Must use Mahindra Brand fluids or void warranty? #17  
I give each fitting 3 shots every 10 hours of TSC red grease. I also grease after every wash job. Count the # of fittings in the book then count as you walk around the tractor greasing the machine.
 
   / Must use Mahindra Brand fluids or void warranty? #18  
I also use Mystic JT6 It is a high quality lithium based grease. There is nothing about the pins and bushings in your FEL or BH that requires any more than for them to be slippery.
I buy the Mystic mainly for trailer bearings,it is a good all purpose grease, so it is my only grease.
 
   / Must use Mahindra Brand fluids or void warranty? #19  
I also use the TSC premium grease. I think the most important thing about grease is just using it.
You are right on about the computers. I had a laptop and when it went bad I trashed it. I already had an iPhone from work so I bought an iPad. I know I could use help setting up a website for my horse boarding operation. But I have no idea how to do it.
Keep at the hard work on your place and it will come together. I have been working on my place 3 years. Fixing the driveway. Cutting timber and having the lumber sawed to rebuild fences. Clearing stumps and brush. Plus regular house maintenance and taking care of horses and their women owners. I consider my tractors my third hand around here. Oh I forgot about that **** daytime job.
If Soundguy chimes in , he's seems knowledgable about lubricants.
 
   / Must use Mahindra Brand fluids or void warranty? #20  
rain, dust, mildew in morning/night time, working pins, bushings, etc... with lots of force... can work things over pretty good.

greasing can make a huge difference, going from a gummy sticky state that can act like sand paper with dust gets in there and makes pins thinner, and wobbling out holes, to a nice slick surface, the lets everything move freely.

if you have a backhoe, and FEL.... hitting all the grease zerks can be daunting. 1 trip around the machine, then 1 more time around, hitting the zerks i missed, is normal thing with me. err i take that back. walk around once compeltely around it hitting all the zerks i can remember about / see. then adjust backhoe and FEL (makes easier to hit certain grease zerks). the another full walk around machine,

if you ever drove a older tractor, with FEL and/or backhoe. and worked a little bit. you should be able to tell how loose the pins / bushings / holes / etc.. are. there is just slop and everything kinda raddles around. greasing is long term solution of preventative maintenance, to keep everything nice and running for years to come, with noticable short term usage, when you do properly grease things, vs have not been greasing for some time.
 

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