Compact Diesel trucks that we can't get here

   / Compact Diesel trucks that we can't get here #131  
Cant legally be taken off, if caught there are nasty federal fines ($10k or so IIRC).

Aaron Z
And now the EPA has the authority to garnish wages to get the fine paid. Possibly a guilty until proven innocent scenario.
 
   / Compact Diesel trucks that we can't get here #132  
I'd like to have a Model A with a diesel in it, kinda make a green rod out of it.

That would be fun :thumbsup:.

Now, if we just had Leno's Garage to play with !

Rgds, D.
 
   / Compact Diesel trucks that we can't get here
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#134  
Not a truck, but a good example of what a modern diesel can do.....

A friend of mine is in Germany on business. Sent me this email today:

Drove a Ford diesel Cmax today in Germany. Sized like a Civic, told me I was getting 3.8 l/100 km at 140 kmph. Solid on the road at 140, was like a civic at 80 kmph. Amazing creature comfort features too numerous to mention. Would love to bring it home with me. Man... We get crap cars in NA.

62mpg US, at close to 90mph. Even allowing for nominal error in the onboard 'puter, that's impressive. My street bike gets close to that, but I don't drive at that speed.

The EPA et al only get away with what they do here, because most people don't know any better....

Rgds, D.

Daym!!!! Sweet mileage.
 
   / Compact Diesel trucks that we can't get here #135  
Daym!!!! Sweet mileage.

Let's see.....

Great fuel consumption.

No expensive battery packs to replace.

Relatively insensitive to driving style/load.
(Just ask a tdi driver here... even if you Drive It Like Ya Stole It, mileage doesn't drop much).

Why would anyone want to drive a light-diesel ?

W/O the artificially skewed pricing of diesel fuel in the USA, cars like this Cmax (and the compact trucks we've been discussing here) would be taking a huge chunk of the market today.

(Of course, I'm assuming a Free Market for vehicles :cloud9: ).

Rgds, D.
 
   / Compact Diesel trucks that we can't get here #136  
Also, in Europe, diesel vehicles are taxed at a lower rate than gas ones.

Aaron Z
 
   / Compact Diesel trucks that we can't get here #137  
Also, in Europe, diesel vehicles are taxed at a lower rate than gas ones.

Aaron Z

The tax story here (Canada) is better than the USA, from a Diesel - Level Playing Field standpoint. Hybrids etc. are currently shown favourtism in Ontario, but AFAIK, a tdi is taxed no differently At Sale, than a 1.9L gas motor.

Our diesel/gas fuel price ratio tends to float up and down - right now, diesel is level or slightly below the price of gasoline around here.

What I've seen of Canadian tax policy seems fair (can't believe I just typed that :rolleyes:) in this respect. I'm obviously a diesel fan, but all I want to see in the market is a Level Playing Field for diesels.

It all comes back to the EPA. Once in a blue moon, Canada will get a unique vehicle/engine that is not available in the USA, but for the most part, we just get whatever vehicles suit the USA market from a compliance standpoint.

If you are not allowed on the field, then whether or not The Field is Level becomes moot..... the weaker player still always wins.

Rgds, D.
 
   / Compact Diesel trucks that we can't get here #138  
This is an entertaining thread looking at it from the other side of the fence. I really wish I could go and buy an F150 Raptor to contrast the workaday diesel 4x4s I drive for a living. More and more cars over here are diesel, I think it accounts for over 50% of new car sales. Some manufacturers have completely dropped the petrol variants of some models. My BMW X1 is one such example, only available with a range of 2l diesels.

But interestingly, the tide is starting turn against diesels. In the UK, diesel popularity was really driven not by their economy, but by the lower CO2 emissions. Because CO2 is/was supposed to be the cause of climate change, you are rewarded with various tax incentives for buying diesels, especially if you are provided a car as a benefit by your employer. But just this last month, both London and Paris have declared they want to ban diesels in the city, or at least heavily penalise them due to NOX emissions which have reached hazardous levels, and so the pendulum begins to swing back towards petrol....

Anyway here's my work cars from the last decade, all diesel....

Range Rover with BMW straight 6, can't remember if it was 2.5l or 3l


Two generations of Shogun with 3.2l 4 cylinder



Nissan Pathfinder with 2.5l 4 cylinder


Two generations of Land Rover Discovery. Both V6 diesel shared with Jaguar cars. Early one is a 2.7l, the later one a 3.0l



Toyota Land Cruiser with 3l 4 cylinder


Mitsubishi L200 with I think a 2.5l 4 cylinder
 
   / Compact Diesel trucks that we can't get here #139  
Anybody remember when Mahindra was going to release a no frills truck in the US? I was really looking forward to it.

Why Mahindra’s Pick Up Truck Foray in the US Failed | Forbes India Blog

mahindra-pickup[1].jpg
 

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