FUEL PROBLEMS with Ethonal

[3930dave]

Well, apply that to the oil companies and such then. Apply it to whomever you choose. One thing is, you are not forced to buy anything. You choose to. You can ride a bicycle if you want. I suggest if you are having a seizure over this stuff, that you boycott all internal combustion engines and retrograde to the 19th century. Then you will find something else to bellyache about.

That is the major flaw in your argument anyway. You claim you are having this forced on you. No you aren't. No one in the government told you that you had to buy a gasoline vehicle. There are VW's and a lot of other vehicles that run on diesel or electricity. If this ethanol thing is going to chap your hide, then just don't buy it. Problem solved! You are not out anything since you won't be buying it, and you are not having your money taken from you and given to the ethanol producers. Now, wasn't this solution easy?

You can buy diesel lawn mowers, UTV's and a host of other things. You could be gasoline free if you chose to, then you can laugh at all of us that still buy it. You will feel better and not risk blowing a gasket over this. It is like the patient who went to the doctor and said, "doc, it hurts when I do this". Doc replies, "well then, don't do that!"

As a believer in Free Will, and someone who will Zag, even when I probably should be following the Zig crowd, I get your argument CuHd.

Unfortunately, that strategy stands up a little better north of the 49'th, up here in Canada. The fact that diesel fuel will float above and below our gasoline price gives me some (perhaps deluded) comfort that there is a semblance of a free market here (gas vs. diesel).

There is something definitely skewed in the American market, as for years diesel fuel has always priced above gasoline in most of the USA. Tin-foil hat thoughts aside, the Pavlovian response that consistent spread creates ("It's more pennies/gallon that gas") as exemplified in many TBN threads means that less road-going diesel platforms get offered in Canada. Few manufacturers will bother supplying a Canadian-only model, unless they are deliberately running an early release run, prior to launching in the USA.

I've also noted that at least in Upstate NY, once you get away from the border/major centres, finding diesel fuel can be a lot more difficult than what I'm used to in Ontario.

Given the major effect energy costs/choices have on our day to day lives, it's somewhat natural that some people will over-react (me included, depending on the phase of the moon.... :confused2 to issues like Ethanol.

We are being "gamed" to some extent on Ethanol, but that isn't really that different than the rest of the energy market in general.... The CanadianTrucking industry continues to ask the Feds here "If we continue to invest in NG fleet vehicles, are you going to keep your paws off NG fuel re. Tranportation Taxes ?".

The silence from our Feds on this NG issue is deafening. I predict that there will be retro-active "Safety" Inspections needed on private NG compressors that fuel vehicles in the future...... enjoy the tax breaks on NG if/while you can, as it probably won't last....

The nature of The Game is that if a significant # of us suddenly decided to switch to bicycles, there would be a huge rise in the number of "Safety" and "Environmental" problems discovered with bicycle tires. It would be really nice if that comment was 100% due to me owning too many tin-foil hats....

Rgds, D.

 

[3930dave]

problem is i cant find a diesel chainsaw, dirtbike or weed wacker!! Lol

Hayes used to make dzl KLR650s, but you'd have to have USMC connections to get one.....

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/automobiles/24KAWASAKI.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=diesel+motorcycle&st=nyt&oref=slogin

96mpg in a 650cc bike...... ! :drool:

Rgds, D.

 

[bcp]

Diesel chainsaw repels mosquitoes, too.

A Google search will turn up some comments about a diesel chainsaw Echo is testing in Canada.

Bruce

 

[Bota4me]

Diesel chainsaw repels mosquitoes, too. YouTube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXR3ZOPlRys A Google search will turn up some comments about a diesel chainsaw Echo is testing in Canada. Bruce

i wont be trading my stihl 361 for that anytime soon lol

 

[bumperm]

Besides, the EPA mandated Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) would be as big as the chain saw head. And when the DPF heats up to do its "regen" cycle, good luck holding on with all that radiated heat . . . you'd need a Nomex suit just to hang onto the thing. I think the air quality issues are the reason, in the US, we don't have diesel outboard engines and many of the smaller diesels used elsewhere.

bumper

 

[coobie]

Hi does anyone have fuel problems from ethanol? I have had to rebuild my carb 3 times now. Stable is garbage doesn't work!! when I empty the tank it has a ton of water and crap in it. Where can I buy gas with no ethanol in NJ? I heard that race gas is not good to use in my tractor but there is no ethanol in it. Looking for advise thanks

I have been using the marine grade stabil with no issues.Try it you like it.

 

[Copperhead]

Probably one of the reasons I have gradually switched from fuel to electric for a lot of my chainsaw, weed whacker, etc needs. I have a PTO generator for my tractor, and I can go anywhere I need on the property to use the 18" chain saw and stuff to get the job done. Have to use the loader on the tractor anyway, so it is going that direction, so might as well use the PTO generator to power what I need. For weed whacking needs, a couple of 18v batteries on my electric one does what I need on my two acre yard and out buildings, around grain bins, propane tanks, fence row around the two acres, etc. No having to fiddle with gas, plugs, mixing two stroke, the noise, etc. And my time has to be spread around a lot of things going on, so the reduced time to maintain the small stuff is a big plus also.

 

[DarkBlack]

That is the major flaw in your argument anyway. You claim you are having this forced on you. No you aren't. No one in the government told you that you had to buy a gasoline vehicle.

Don't quit your day job and try to make it as a lawyer, you'll starve.
I never made the argument that I was forced to buy a gasoline burning machine.
I said it before, and I'll repeat it for those like you: We're forced to buy ethanol, when we want to buy gasoline.
It's a pretty simple logical situation for most.

 

[Patches]

Arguing with a corn grower is like arguing with the cable company; if you want ESPN you have to buy the 400 cooking and "buy-on-line" home shopping channels to get it

 

[DarkBlack]

I know.
I just like to have fun with these promotional "voices" that think they are saying something new, in their attempt at taking taxpayer money.