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   / What's the point... #101  
Its only good for a coffee mug or water bottle though. Carbonated beverages are flat in no-time though. And it really aint that great for coffee mugs either. I have sacrificed a few to the bushhog:banghead:

Lynch pins dont fall out of it though:thumbsup:

Does it work better with cans or bottles of beer?
 
   / What's the point... #102  
Does it work better with cans or bottles of beer?

Neither. They both go flat quickly once opened and stored in the cup holder. Best to finish them quickly.
 
   / What's the point... #103  
If you get the right size water bottle, they stick in there pretty good!
 
   / What's the point... #105  
****, it's the cup holder thread all over, lol. Next thing you know the safety police will be here pulling you all over for drinking and tractoring. :)
 
   / What's the point... #106  
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Like this poor guy?
 
   / What's the point... #108  
I've done 1 1/2" with my LN-25 wire feeder and 8000 watt motor/generator. Lots of preheat and tri-mix. It was on the Z-bar on a New Holland LW130B wheel loader that broke into two pieces. It has held together longer now than it did from the factory.

Back to the bigger topic. I've left before, a dozen or so years ago. I got tired of every time I posted about a failure on a Kubota tractor everybody wanted to take their tractors back to the dealer and get their machine fixed under warranty without it even failing. I couldn't get them to understand that I saw more machines in a month than they will likely ever see, and that most of my customers put more hours on their equipment in a few years than theirs will see in its lifetime. I was also annoyed that more people seemed more interested in where to mount a cup holder on their Kubota than anything else. Thankfully the board grew to include more topics and more diverse membership.

I never had a problem with SA, he always seemed genuine in his critique of my welds.

Brian

Brian you make 3 good points here, thank you. You are right the bigger topic is how things are discussed on the internet, not actual "welding". Every once in awhile there is a response from a pro that is the real deal.

1) A welder fuses metal. There are many techniques necessary. Very few techniques are listed on the outside of the box. Sometimes a few more techniques are listed in the owners manual. It naive to think what's printed on the box encompasses the entire capability of the tool. I understand why they print 3/16" (or 1/4") as the max thickness for a 120v MIG. Anyone remember when all hand drills were called a "1/4-inch drill motor"? This is kind of comical, actually. Especially when 'pros' jump on the bandwagon (not you Brian).

2) High on the list of many TBN members is the desire to retain their tractor's resale value. A forum is the perfect place for them, better than out there putting hours on, scratching up the paint. But so what? It's a hobby. Understood it can be annoying to a pro whose desire is to give a 'real' answer - but it's about the same as internet weld inspectors. They can ignore the serviceability of a weld, which is ludicrous in the real world but perfect for the internet. Many forum members are unable to assess the serviceability of a weld and will admit it. The "appearance thing" becomes quite the conundrum for these fellas.

3) A bully's goal is to elevate himself, he will gravitate towards challenges that he expects to win. But on the other hand, I bet you didn't post any pictures of welds that were serviceable,,,,,, (but you know that in the right conditions, position, access, with more time to prep, higher $bid, etc) you could have done much "better". So what? The job is done and once you have enough experience you know its good.
 
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Brian you make 3 good points here, thank you. You are right the bigger topic is how things are discussed on the internet, not actual "welding". Every once in awhile there is a response from a pro that is the real deal. 1) A welder fuses metal. There are many techniques necessary. Very few techniques are listed on the outside of the box. Sometimes a few more techniques are listed in the owners manual. It naive to think what's printed on the box encompasses the entire capability of the tool. I understand why they print 3/16" (or 1/4") as the max thickness for a 120v MIG. Anyone remember when all hand drills were called a "1/4-inch drill motor"? This is kind of comical, actually. Especially when 'pros' jump on the bandwagon (not you Brian). 2) High on the list of many TBN members is the desire to retain their tractor's resale value. A forum is the perfect place for them, better than out there putting hours on, scratching up the paint. But so what? It's a hobby. Understood it can be annoying to a pro whose desire is to give a 'real' answer - but it's about the same as internet weld inspectors. They can ignore the serviceability of a weld, which is ludicrous in the real world but perfect for the internet. Many forum members are unable to assess the serviceability of a weld and will admit it. The "appearance thing" becomes quite the conundrum for these fellas. 3) A bully's goal is to elevate himself, he will gravitate towards challenges that he expects to win. But on the other hand, I bet you didn't post any pictures of welds that were serviceable,,,,,, (but you know that in the right conditions, position, access, with more time to prep, higher $bid, etc) you could have done much "better". So what? The job is done and once you have enough experience you know its good.

Shield Arc is gone. Time to do your victory dance and move on. This tireless carping about 110 volt vs. 220 volt welders has been beat to death over numerous threads.

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Every time a reasonable thread about welding was started, it took little time before you guys with the torches and pitch forks would show up and crap all over someone else's thread.

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   / What's the point... #110  
This tireless carping about 110 volt vs. 220 volt welders has been beat to death over numerous threads.

Let me get this straight Rick, which of these is the "tireless carping, prattling" that bothers you so much that you continue to read and reply?

carp/prattle #1: 120v MIG is worthy of discussion & developement on TBN welding sub-forum
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carp/prattle #2: 120v MIG is NOT worthy of discussion & developement on TBN welding sub-forum
 
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