Brian you make 3 good points here, thank you. You are right the bigger topic is how things are discussed on the internet, not actual "welding". Every once in awhile there is a response from a pro that is the real deal. 1) A welder fuses metal. There are many techniques necessary. Very few techniques are listed on the outside of the box. Sometimes a few more techniques are listed in the owners manual. It naive to think what's printed on the box encompasses the entire capability of the tool. I understand why they print 3/16" (or 1/4") as the max thickness for a 120v MIG. Anyone remember when all hand drills were called a "1/4-inch drill motor"? This is kind of comical, actually. Especially when 'pros' jump on the bandwagon (not you Brian). 2) High on the list of many TBN members is the desire to retain their tractor's resale value. A forum is the perfect place for them, better than out there putting hours on, scratching up the paint. But so what? It's a hobby. Understood it can be annoying to a pro whose desire is to give a 'real' answer - but it's about the same as internet weld inspectors. They can ignore the serviceability of a weld, which is ludicrous in the real world but perfect for the internet. Many forum members are unable to assess the serviceability of a weld and will admit it. The "appearance thing" becomes quite the conundrum for these fellas. 3) A bully's goal is to elevate himself, he will gravitate towards challenges that he expects to win. But on the other hand, I bet you didn't post any pictures of welds that were serviceable,,,,,, (but you know that in the right conditions, position, access, with more time to prep, higher $bid, etc) you could have done much "better". So what? The job is done and once you have enough experience you know its good.